Hi Johnny,

My understanding is everything should be working in IE 10+, Safari 6+ and
mobile safari. If something isn't working then it's probably a bug. We're
doing a big push internally to upgrade our testing infrastructure so we can
do a better job on cross platform/device testing.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Johnny Larue <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Thank you and team for Polymer, it's a wonderful thing, as is DART and
> Angular!
>
> I am just leaning Polymer Dart and I plan to adopt these
> frameworks/languages for all future HTML 5 development.
>
> What would help me a lot, and likely a ton of others is to understand
> when will the Polymer team complete full Polyfill support for *IE10+,*
> Safari 6+, Mobile Safari?
>
> Currently *IE10+* shows *Limited (Useable)* on *Template*, *Mutation
> Observer*, *Custom Elements*.
>
> This may be the reason that whenever I load up a Polymer based application
> it rarely renders in *IE11.09 (Desk Top)* and almost never in the Windows
> 8.1 *(Tile View) IE Browser*.
>
> Do you see *IE10+* getting full PolyFill support anytime soon (perhaps
> before end of 2014)?
>
> Also, what's up with IE, why hasn't MS provided any native support of Web
> Components. I thought MS was part of the group pushing the HTML 5 spec?
>
> Cheers
> John
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:12:21 PM UTC-4, Rob Dodson wrote:
>
>> Hey fabrice, as I mentioned over on Youtube
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKrYfrAzqFA&google_comment_id=z12cz3qjbzidhdu0h23szp3prmbggnufm>,
>> we only support the last two version of each browser. Polymer is a future
>> facing library and we would need to significantly increase the size and
>> complexity of our polyfill layer if we started reaching back to support
>> extremely old legacy browsers.
>>
>> Btw, you mentioned IE10, we actually do support that one. And there
>> aren't many users on older versions of Chrome and Firefox as those browsers
>> auto-update.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> *Polymer is amazing! (but you probably know this)*
>>> Polymer and Material Design was one of the most exciting things I have
>>> since in a while!
>>>
>>> I really liked the idea you could build apps with UI standards for
>>> Native device also across the web -- these days so many people think that
>>> the web is dead: because Apps are dominating in Mobile and Mobile is
>>> quickly dominating the web.
>>> I also especially liked transitions/animations which I think is the next
>>> paradigm and really can improve UX. The whole Material Design is amazing.
>>> Really really really amazing! I found myself watching as many videos as
>>> possible on Polymer and Material Design and there are now quite a few!
>>>
>>> *Browser compatibility: will Polymer be usable in the next 3 years?*
>>> But the one big BIG disappointment is browser compatibility. I was
>>> disappointed when I say the compatibility guidelines:
>>> http://www.polymer-project.org/resources/compatibility.html
>>> But somehow I couldn't beleive it and I just hoped it somehow degraded
>>> nicely on older browser. I was very disappointed when I found it really
>>> doesn't degrade beautifully at all on things like Safari 5 or IE9. It just
>>> completely falls appart. Apparently even Android web-view in some cases
>>> Polymer will completely break.
>>>
>>> So everything that was exciting about it especially being cross-device
>>> suddenly looked very over-stated at best. I mean we are all still hoping we
>>> can finally put IE6 behind us... So Safari 5, IE10, or older versions of
>>> Chrome & Firefox: that's at least 3 to 5 years *at best*!
>>>
>>> I am surprised more efforts were not put to help adopting Polymer by
>>> creating a smoother transition by having ways to degrade Polymer
>>> beautifully on older browsers. Even if that meant loosing the benefits of
>>> Polymer for any of these Browsers.
>>> Have I missed something? Is there a way to degrade beautiful Polymer to
>>> support the majority of browsers? Will browser compatibility improve: is
>>> that somewhere on the near future of the product roadmap?
>>>
>>> Note: Attaching screenshot of Polymer demo running on Safari
>>>
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