Thank you very much for filing the bug, I hope things will start to happen.
Daniel Freedman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Steve and John, > > I've filed https://github.com/Polymer/paper-elements/issues/17 to track > making all of the demos for the paper elements, and the demo app itself, > keyboard accessible. > > I admit that IE11 on Windows has not been a primary area of focus for > screen reader support. I should probably requisition a set of popular > screen readers for Windows to do some manual testing soon. > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So how can we make our pages usable that way? Should we use native > > input elements instead of paperinput? > > > > Steve Faulkner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > On Saturday, 27 September 2014 12:05:48 UTC+1, John Covici wrote: > > > > > > > > But were you able to locate the input field using the arrow keys while > > > > browse mode was on and press enter to turn browse mode off on the edit > > > > fields? Right now the edit fields are not recognized at all. > > > > > > > > > > I was unable to successfully navigate or use the paper element demo page. > > > iI tried with NVDA in Firefox and IE and window eyes in IE and Firefox. > > > Unless I am missing something The demo page(s) navigation menu items are > > > not exposed as interactive element and are not focusable. The demo pages > > do > > > not include basic semantic structures such as headings, lists etc, which > > > make it very difficult to use with a screen reader (or indeed with the > > > keyboard alone). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Faulkner <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would the fact that we have the animated-pages component in there > > make > > > > > > any difference? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just did some quick testing on the paper input demo page: > > > > > > > > > > Using Window Eyes 8.4 and IE 11 I was able to navigate to the text > > > > inputs > > > > > (using either the tab key or the E shortcut key) and they worked as > > > > > expected most of the time. Window eyes exhibited some superfluous > > > > > announcements "one frame" repeatedly. > > > > > > > > > > Note: I am a sighted user and placed focus on the first text input > > using > > > > > the mouse, then used keyboard after that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 27 September 2014 09:29:05 UTC+1, John Covici wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Faulkner <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reviewing the code of the paper input elements demo > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.polymer-project.org/components/paper-elements/demo.html#paper-input > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they use an <input type="text"> in the shadow DOM, and this gets > > > > exposed > > > > > > > correctly in the accessibility tree, so not sure what the cause > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > issue is you are experiencing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 26 September 2014 21:15:03 UTC+1, John Covici wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The version of Window-eyes I am using does support aria, at > > least > > > > as > > > > > > far > > > > > > > > as I have been able to figure out. It is not public > > version. I > > > > am > > > > > > > > using ie11. I wonder if we should use native input instead of > > > > > > > > paper-input? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Faulkner <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you may be encountering a number of issues: > > > > > > > > > 1. accessibility support in polymer UI components is half > > baked > > > > > > > > > 2. Window Eyes support for ARIA is half baked > > > > > > > > > 3. if you are using IE... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If possible try Firefox and NVDA, it won't solve the polymer > > UI > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > will give you best chance at making use of accessibility > > polymer > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > implemented. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 26 September 2014 20:31:17 UTC+1, John Covici > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using Window-eyes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Faulkner <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can I ask what screen reader are you using? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 26 September 2014 19:40:50 UTC+1, John Covici > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a newbie at Polymer, so please bear with me. I am > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > > project whose website uses some of your components and > > I > > > > would > > > > > > > > like to > > > > > > > > > > > > make it accessible -- right now it is not really > > > > accessible. > > > > > > \so > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > tried to get the starter project going by copying the > > > > finish > > > > > > > > folder > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > a Linux server I have, but all I get is something which > > > > says > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > favorites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your life is like a penny. 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