Really? Nobody?

Is this the wrong place to ask/discuss design questions or am i asking too 
much at once? Nobody else concerned about such questions? I would be really 
thankful if anybody could point me to the right location to ask such 
questions.

Again - i'm an enthusiastic user of Polymer 2 and do quite a lot of 
applications with it but i'd like to learn about where actually Polymer 
project is heading and to unserstand the choices. Otherwise it's getting 
very hard to commit to it and to see if it's still a fit to my needs.

Any comments welcome.

-Joern

Am Freitag, 8. September 2017 13:17:12 UTC+2 schrieb Joern Turner:
>
> Hi,
>
> just read the blog article "
> Hands-on with the Polymer 3.0 preview"
> To start with: i'm a huge fan of Polymer and trying to push it whereever i 
> can in our projects. I appreciate the hard work of all developers of that 
> fantastic project.
>
>
> In that light please allow me some criticism:
>
>
> Seems that Polymer 3 is bringing another toolchain with it again (yarn). 
> Polymer tools are fine and you want them for productivity. I'm not opposed 
> to learn new things when they bring significant value. However having to 
> learn a new way of doing things with every major release is also a burden 
> for each Polymer user that doesn't eat every newest tool for breakfast. - 
> would be great if you guys give it a thought next time.
>
> But now for the important things:
>
>
> i can live with the removal of link imports though i personally liked them 
> but another syntax does equally well here.
>
>
> But i'm kind of shocked by the prospect that Polymer 3 seems to drop 
> declarative templates in favor of string jungle. Imagining to build 
> complex templates as strings gives me a shiver and makes me doubt about all 
> the work i put into Polymer 2 apps now.  
>
>
> IMO HTML templates are one major selling point for me to work with Polymer 
> (and to convince others of the innovation Polymer brings). I don't want to 
> imagine bulding complex templates with strings. 
>
>
> Furthermore - turning the representation into a pure javascript one does 
> harm the component metaphor IMHO. A compoment (of course my view of things) 
> is built on-top of a custom HTML Element. As such it's natural that a web 
> component is a html snippet. I always especially liked that about Polymer. 
> And wasn't there something like "everything is an element" slogan? Is that 
> deprecated? Sorry but representing an element as a ES6 module doesn't feel 
> like the 'next generation' but more like 'yet another JS framework'.  
> Always speaking for myself - but this is a big step backward. 
>
>
>
> Sorry if my complaint directs in the wrong direction - i don't follow the 
> W3C Web Component group, Apologies in that case. 
>
>
> As i doubt that my personal opinion will influence the flow of things 
> here's my question: will there be any way to work with declarative 
> templates in the longer term? Maybe as an option? 
>
>
> What about CSS and ES6 modules? No example of that in the blog post?
>
>
> Lots of questions and complaints i know but i would really appreciate your 
> opinions/comments.
>
>
> Joern
>

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