I do agree with Rob, that the users should re-resolve the pooladdresses once a 
day. I can even live with with once every week. 

Another thing: I have loads of traffic on port 37 trying to reach my NTP 
server. I estimate that about 50% of the "NTP related traffic" goes to port 37 
UDP. It would be very nice if there is a strong requirement not to use the pool 
for port 37 requests 


Met vriendelijke groet, Best regards, 


Thom van der Boon 
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Van: "Rob Janssen" <[email protected]> 
Aan: [email protected] 
Verzonden: Dinsdag 23 juli 2019 10:38:15 
Onderwerp: Re: [Pool] Server still in the pool? 

I am currently trying to get a server out of the pool before it gets 
decomissioned completely. 
It has been removed from the pool like two months ago, but it still 
receives a lot of requests. 
I have sent KoD on these requests for some time, but they keep coming in. 

I think most of them are from ISP routers that have pool.ntp.org as 
their default NTP server setting 
and query the pool in SNTP manner to set the router clock. Queries are 
usually either once per 
hour or once per day, but there is a huge amount of such routers. I 
think it should be put as a 
requirement on manufacturers of such routers that the re-resolve the DNS 
name at least once 
a day, instead of resolving it only once at bootup and then using the 
same IP address forever. 

But also there are more NTP-like users. They have a polling interval 
around 1024 seconds. 
They apparently are stabilized instances of ntpd or similar, but still a 
lot of them keep coming 
back when receiving KoD. Maybe the processing of KoD has been removed 
from ntpd just like 
the generation of it? 

As long as we cannot get such simple measures correctly implemented, 
forget about more 
complicated things. Sure you could add a lookup feature, but nobody is 
going to use it. 

Rob 

On 7/21/19 11:51 PM, Hal Murray wrote: 
> Is there any way for client code to determine if an IP Address is still in 
> the 
> pool? Maybe something like a DNS lookup on d.c.b.a.pool.ntp.org 
> 
> If there was a way to do that, it would be easy to update servers to check 
> occasionally and stop using servers that have left the pool. 
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