On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 02:30 +0100, Aaron Sloman wrote:
   . . .

> Are you giving these commands to the shell, or to pop11 or to emacs?

I haven't tried to bring emacs into the fray yet.  So far I'm just
dealing with the shell and pop11/prolog/clisp/pml.
   . . .
> To make them work from the shell you *have to* follow instructions
> printed
> out when you run getpoplog.sh [I've just tried to make this clearer
> in
> the printout]:

I *think* I did, but MMMV.
   . . .

>            export usepop=`cat USEPOP`
> 
>     csh/tcsh users do this instead:
>             setenv usepop `cat USEPOP`

Here's an interaction with an xterm I just kicked off:

bill@debian-desktop:~$ echo $usepop
/home/bill/Poplog/poplog/V16/poplog_base
bill@debian-desktop:~$ cat $usepop/USEPOP
/home/bill/Poplog/poplog/V16/poplog_base
bill@debian-desktop:~$ echo $PATH
/home/bill/Poplog/poplog/V16/poplog_base/pop/pop:
/home/bill/bin:
/usr/local/bin:/
usr/bin:
/bin:
/usr/local/games:
/usr/games:
/home/bill/Poplog/poplog/V16/poplog_base/pop/com
bill@debian-desktop:~$ 

I *think* these show that 1) I got $usepop right, 2) I have my .bashrc
and .bash-login right, and 3) my environment is being set up correctly
for invoking the executables.
   . . .

> After all that a whole lot of additional commands will be available
> from
> the shell, including pop11, prolog, clisp, ved, xved, teach, help, 

W. Hebisch's missive says that, as of V16, teach and ref are no longer
available as shell commands.  I looked in $usepop/pop/pop and found the
following items with "x" mode set: basepop11, clisp, corepop, pglink,
pml, pop11, poplink,_cmnd, prolog, ved, xved.
If I am correct that this is the place to look for executables then
these results support Hebisch's statement.  teach, ref and help are not
among them.

What have I missed?

Many thanks for your help,

Bill Wood


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