I read alex's post after my last posting, ok alex you're the list owner so do 
what you will with me (big boy) but i will not retract the adjective lame, I 
cannot think of any other word that sums up my feelings any better about what 
I heard. I have no bee in my bonnet about alot of people liking any 
particular group, it is merely an honest opinion based on all I have heard  
and my experience of the B&S phenomenon

The Jam song START mentions loving with a passion called hate

Dont tell me this aint so

Is this feeling sinister?
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