I am usually reading...happy to help!

So, you should know that 32000-2 now mandates an appearance (/AP) so it may be 
time to consider adding that to Poppler (or at least putting it in the plans 
sooner rather than later)

Is there a sample PDF that demonstrates the difference?  I didn't see it in 
that long thread.

I did check our code, and we do fully support g/G, rg/RG, and k/K for setting 
the colors for both text and vectors via the /DA entry.   sc/SC won't work 
because they require a resources dictionary which you don't have in this 
context, so we don't check for that.  I also checked and we handle a number of 
the text operators as well, including Tr (though for value of 0, that's not 
necessary as it's the default GState).

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: poppler <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tobias 
Deiminger
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 2:53 PM
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Subject: [poppler] FreeText font/border color in DA - ISO32k vs Adobe Reader vs 
poppler

I'm posting here, esp. in the hope Leonard Rosenthol is reading. Adobe Reader 
behaves differently than I had expected. Want to figure out what's going on, 
because of 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fpoppler%2Fpoppler%2Fissues%2F50&amp;data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C345a06226a4949a7ad9508d60929ba06%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636706472167525632&amp;sdata=y7VLnRCm2uifmZ%2FUQYssmAmH3ywERAXThK34fGLV1sU%3D&amp;reserved=0.

Questions is, how shall one adjust font color and border color of FreeText 
annotations by means of /DA? I'm asking explicitely about situations where 
there's no /AP, because poppler can't write /AP atm.

ISO 32k tells us that /DA establishes graphics state in case there's no /AP. We 
can use text operators
- g/rg/k/sc, set color for nonstroking operations
- G/RG/K/SC, set color for stroking operations
- Tr, set text rendering mode, where 0 = "fill"

Drawing border is most likely a stroking operation, while drawing text glyphs 
in fill mode is a nonstroking operation. So I had expected Adobe Reader to take 
font color from g/rg/k/sc, and to take border color from G/RG/K/SC. In fact, 
Adobe Reader does so in the /AP entry. But it doesn't interpret /DA like this.

By trial I found Adobe Reader uses rg from /DA as border color, and doesn't 
take font color from /DA at all (text is always black). That confuses me quite 
a bit.
Is this really the Adobe interpretation of the standard?

If yes, and we follow the "do it like Adobe" guideline, this gets us into 
trouble. We can't simply use DA to set both font and border color, but have to 
embed AP, which means much more work left for #50.
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