On Wednesday 05 December 2007, Simon Bertrang wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 05:41:55PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > update: devel/p5-Test-NoWarnings-0.084 > > > > maintainer: Simon Bertrang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > tested: i386 > > As you already showed, you don't seem to care about the actual > changes for the ports. Also you're mostly doing duplicate work. > > And your way of pushing the diffs is NOT NICE! > > Talk to the maintainers FIRST, before sending it to ports@ because > you give people who should know better a chance to look at it. > Besides, asking the right people for comments, tests and/or oks is > often harder than the update itself. > > I'd welcome if you start to FOLLOW THE PROCESS. > > Simon
You are advocating talk rather than code. Your accusation of not caring about the actual changes to the ports is completely unfounded. I've been very carefully walking the dependency trees, updating all dependencies before updating the parent. Your accusation of "mostly doing duplicate work" is also completely unfounded. If it's not in -current and has not been posted to this list for testing, then it most likely hasn't been done. The "right people" for comments, tests and oks are already subscribed to this list. If something is out of date in -current and has not been mentioned on the lists, I fix it, make the changes public on the list, and cc the maintainer. Talking to a maintainer first is rude, pushy and manipulative because it is tantamount to asking the maintainer to do an update and to take their responsibility more seriously --it's a guilt trip. I do not expect *you* to spend your free time doing the work that *I* want done. I just do the work myself, and share the results. Please try to realize this is not a competition, and there is no reason for a maintainer to be offended when someone else manages to get the work done before you do. I'm not doing the work for you and I'm not doing it to make you look bad. Instead, I'm doing the work because I want it done. If you find it useful, then great, but if not, then don't let it trouble you so much. Simon, please stop looking for a fight, I'm not your enemy. Kind Regards, JCR
