sorry, misread it. answering to this part again.

> > it also looks like somewhere it's forgetting to link with a library?
 
  ok, will check but i'm not getting that.

> > maybe you can drop the .SILENT in the makefiles again like before.

  I don't see the need for the .SILENT, it doesn't spit all the ansi crap
but it doesn't make it better either.  i don't care either way but i don't
see this as an stopper atm.

  f.-

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