> > > maybe you can drop the .SILENT in the makefiles again like before.
> 
>   I don't see the need for the .SILENT, it doesn't spit all the ansi crap
> but it doesn't make it better either.  i don't care either way but i don't
> see this as an stopper atm.

not a stopper, it's often just handy to see the actual compile/link
commands in the build logs...

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