On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:08:26PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:47:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > hmm, on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:26:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > > > > > well, i dont have even have firefox installed. why should i care? > > > > > > > > I did not realize we were developing OpenBSD just for you. > > > > > > i did not realize openbsd was developed for firefox. > > > what i was trying to say, why should i care that firefox cannot > > > print to file unless massaged with a custom fonts.conf? > > > > > > you say it was only an example. > > > > > > ok, can you give me some other examples how > > > "by default, people should end up with broken ps and pdf files." ? > > > > I won't, because you are being hostile. > > hostile? now you made me laugh. just look at how you and > Marc annihilated that poor guy a couple of mails above. > a bit of self reflection please... > > i am far from being hostile. you read it that way because > you dislike me, that's all. if a developer "doesnt care" about > something, it's cool, it's hip. if i do, it's hostile. > > > > i regularly produce files in X using a boatload of applications > > > from gimp to tex and have never come accross the problem you > > > are trying to solve. contrarywise, now the system messes > > > with my font configuration for no good apparent reason. > > > > It does not -- it actually offers vector fonts that are installed to > > applications instead of only offering them bitmap fonts. > > it overrides (amongst others) generic foundry name space with one > particular font face. you are also ignoring everyone who has > additional fonts intalled in addition to those bitmap ones... > > i am really curious about those other examples. otherwise this is > a very intrusive firefox-specific system-wide personal setting > and should be deal with as such... >
Sorry you blame the wrong people. Get us free helvetica, times, and all the other 13 standard fonts in good hinted truetype or similar form and the hack would go away imediatly. Until then we need to substitue the basic fonts with comparable vectorized fonts so that you can actually print ot produce a PDF that is readable. The bitmap fonts that are installed are maybe nice on the screen but on paper they suck big time. I like to be able to read my e-tickets and receipts and I can live with the fact that I need to install a corect Helvetica to get a correct Helvetica output. Fonts are a huge mess. -- :wq Claudio
