> From [email protected] Mon Aug 31 13:30:33 2009
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:22:45 +0100
> From: Stuart Henderson <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: mplayer
>
> On 2009/08/31 09:58, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 02:41:32PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 02:47:02AM +0000, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 06:23:46PM +0100, Mikolaj Kucharski wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:51:49PM +0000, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > > > > could we move the support for win32/real/qtx codecs to a flavor?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > currently, one has to have machdep.userldt enabled to play WMV/WMA
> > > > > > files, even if mplayer doesn't really need to load the codecs to
> > > > > > play the files.  this is because when mplayer is built with support
> > > > > > for the binary codecs, it tries to probe the codecs when opening
> > > > > > a WMV/WMA file.  then mplayer exists asking you to enable
> > > > > > machdep.userldt.  this doesn't happen if mplayer is built without
> > > > > > support for the binary codecs.  it just plays the files.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does that mean that binary codecs have precedence before other codecs?
> > > > > What happends if you change order of vfm/afm in config?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would prefer to have it enabled by default.
> > > > 
> > > > I really don't think it's a good idea to mess with mplayer internals.
> > > > either a win32, or if most people really really want them by default,
> > > > a no_win32 flavor.  let's keep it simple, please.
> > > 
> > > More flavors is not more simple. Just the contrary. Especially when you
> > > have to deal with twice as many error reports...
> > > 
> > > It also means users have to make choices as to which flavor they install.
> > > And this grows bulk build times as well.
> > > 
> > > Can we just stay away from flavors and fix this for real ?
> > > 
> > 
> > fuck it then.  I'm happy with my local update of mplayer.  I'm not the
> > maintainer of this port anyway.  good luck.
>
> fwiw, I'd be totally happy not adding a flavour and just disabling
> the binary codecs outright, it used to be needed in order to play
> a significant number of files, but native codec support is pretty
> reasonable now, I don't think we need to keep on encouraging people
> to use the untrusted, binary-only, and almost certainly insecure
> codecs.

I never needed proprietary codecs;  and if it gets in the way for
ffwma/ffwmv i'm happy with disabling them.

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