Joerg Jung wrote:
> 
> > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:07, Ted Unangst <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Joerg Jung wrote:
> >> 
> >> please find below an update for x11/dwm to 6.1.  This release contains
> >> various fixes and improvements, see announcement [1] for more details.
> >> 
> >> OK?
> > 
> > so now that we finally changed the default xterm back to uxterm, they 
> > changed
> > it to st. needs another man page patch. :)
> 
> I wonder what dwm users think about the following proposal:
> 
> Remove the uxterm patch and keep st as the default terminal.
> If you are a dwm/dmenu suckless user on your desktop you are 
> probably also fine with using st. 
> 
> st has become rather stable and usable. A lot of issues are 
> fixed and most terminal applications seem to work just fine.
> 
> Other “desktop environments” also all start their own terminals 
> (e.g. gnome, kde, xfce, …).
> 
> Or does this go one step too far?!  What do you think?

I've never liked st. I don't love xterm, per se, but despite the mind numbing
code it mostly seems to work. In particular, I like scrollback and I don't
want to run 32 different tmux sessions to get the same effect. Maybe they're
fixed, but I also had some screen drawing glitches in st a year or so ago.

Now I'm also old and cranky and I think gterm, kterm, eterm, etc. are all
stupid ideas too, but I'm not using dwm because I want to buy into the
suckless desktop environment. I just want a window manager.

(All that said, since I had to build 6.1 by myself to test, I also changed the
font to ubuntu mono to match my xterms, so maybe I will just keep building it
myself the way I like, so my opinion doesn't count.)

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