On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 16:01:09 -0800, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
> It isn't "ordering", rather the use of "permit_auth_destination" is
> unnecessary and counterproductive.  Just simplify to:
> 
>     smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
>       permit_mynetworks, 
>       permit_sasl_authenticated,
>       reject_unauth_destination,
>       reject_unverified_recipient

and not split off smtpd_relay_restrictions?

> Where I am also recommending deletion of
> "reject_unknown_recipient_domain", because you're unlikely to, and
> should not have, any "unknown" domains that pass
> "reject_unauth_destination".

makes sense

> For "reject_unknown_recipient_domain" to make sense, it would have to be
> listed first, before "permit_mynetworks, ..." so that invalid recipient
> domains are also rejected in outbound mail from your own users (rather
> than queued and bounced).

ok, makes sense

> I'm surprised to not see any mainstream RBLs in that setting.  How
> 'bout:
> 
>     smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
>       permit_mynetworks, 
>       permit_sasl_authenticated,
>       reject_unauth_destination,
>         # Or if you prefer another high quality RBL, use that.
>       reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,
>       reject_unverified_recipient

rather than

    postscreen_dnsbl_sites =
        list.dnswl.org=127.0.[0..255].[1..3]*-5
        zen.spamhaus.org*2

which is what i have now

randy
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