Am 04.12.2012 08:54, schrieb Tomas Macek: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Robert Schetterer wrote: > >> Am 04.12.2012 08:20, schrieb Tomas Macek: >>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 04.12.2012 07:58, schrieb Tomas Macek: >>>>> >>>>>> 2) why would you setup a submission service that doesn't require auth >>>>>> from MUAs? >>>>> >>>>> It's because they never had to. It is a historical problem. Now we >>>>> have thousands of customers, that never had to >>>>> authenticate, so there is no power to force them to do it now. >>>> >>>> than you have lost any game >>> >>> Still hope I didn't. My roadmap: >>> 1) split 25 and 587 with permit_mynetworks on 587 and thus allow the >>> people without auth to send their email to 587 >> >> >>> >>> 2) by means of prerouting rule of iptables redirect sending emails from >>> $mynetworks to 587 >> >> dont do that, makes no sense > > Everyone here says me, that MUAs should send their mails through 587. I > can't do that without iptables, because all the people here have Outlook > Expresses setup with port 25 for sending emails from default configuration. > > Tomas
Tomas, many here gave you good advice Outlook Express is totally outdated, and not included in win versions above XP which extended support ends in April 8 2014, so your users have to change in any case to another mailclient as is said you should have webmail in any case for users, so people could look on their mail ever Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich