Thanks Noel for gently pointing out the obvious - there was in fact a non 
default timeout setting lurking set to 15 secs - the Cpanel exim setting is 20 
secs. 

Removed to let postfix timeout settings sit at default. All good.

Appreciate it.



> On 29 Mar 2019, at 8:21 am, Noel Jones <njo...@megan.vbhcs.org> wrote:
> 
> On 3/28/2019 5:09 PM, Dale Harper wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Cpanel environments have a artifical (“tar pitting”) delay in their  smtp 
>> transaction when receiving email.
>> Cpanel’s exim config has a “delay = 20secs”. (CPanel documentation: 
>> https://documentation.cpanel.net/display/78Docs/Exim+Configuration+Manager+-+Basic+Editor#ACLOptions
>>  Under - "Introduce a delay into the SMTP transaction for unknown hosts and 
>> messages detected as spam.”)
>> I’m thinking that’s what is causing the following logged error sending from 
>> our postfix server to Cpanel email addresses.
>> Final-Recipient: rfc822; em...@xyz.com
>> Original-Recipient: rfc822;addr...@xyz.com
>> Action: failed
>> Status: 4.4.2
>> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; conversation with xyz.com[x.x.x.x]
>>    timed out while receiving the initial server greeting
>> Sits in deferred and eventually fails.
>> This is now 2 different Cpanel hosting companies I’m seeing the same issue.
>> The receiving exim server's artificial delay is 20sec, I know postfix’s 
>> various timeout defaults are well in excess of that (i.e. 
>> smtp_connect_timeout is default at 30secs).
>> I’m taking responsibility and saying its my postfix server - as clearly most 
>> servers are handling the smtp transaction delay just fine - thought not all! 
>> - there is plenty of interwebs chatter out there about this exim delay = 20 
>> causing timeouts.
>> If you’ve seen and dealt with this I’d really appreciate your advice thank 
>> you.
>> Dale
> 
> 
> Have you adjusted the other smtp_*_timeout settings from their default values?
> 
> In particular, this sounds as if you've reduced the smtp_helo_timeout to 
> something much less than the default 300s.
> 
> If you need more help, please show "postconf -n" and log entries 
> demonstrating the problem.
> 
> 
>  -- Noel Jones

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