----- Original Message -----
> From: "Conor McCarthy" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 July, 2013 6:58:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pound Mailing List] SSL Read Error
> 
> On 25 July 2013 15:02, Kieran Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Snipping quite a lot of stuff..
> 
> I wanted to eliminate a problem with the cipher suite, which might arise from
> different versions of ssl, e.g. lack of common ciphers or protocol version.
> 
> > Snippet from an  "ab -c 1 -n1 -r -v5 https://192.168.156.138/";
> >
> > I've removed Varnish from the equation temporarily, and jsut got a flat
> > file behind apache, it looks likes it's hitting the backend all ok, and
> > serving up my content - but...
> > something is going badly wrong -
> >
> > Is the fact that I am getting
> >
> > read from 0x7ff136cf1300 [0x7ff136cf6c93] (5 bytes => 0 (0x0))
> >
> > The fact that 5 bytes is greater than 0 - meaning that I am getting the SSL
> > read Error ???
> >
> > And if so - why would that be ?
> 
> Each SSL record has a 3 byte header + 2 byte payload length (hence 5),
> 0 bytes is the size of the payload, which is why you're getting a read error
> --
> no data. Possibly the previous read was short.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#TLS_record_protocol
> 
> As to why...
> The chosen cipher and protocol version are the shiny new
>   TLS/1.2 DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA38
> so it's possible that ab is dropping the ball.
> 
> Start an s_server running exactly that cipher/version, and see if ab
> works without error:
> 
> openssl s_server -www -tls1_2 -cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 \
>     -cert server.crt -key server.key -accept 8443
> 
> ab [...] https://127.0.0.1:8443/
> 

So - no, doesn't appear ab (2.3) is working without error...


Window#1

openssl s_server -www -tls1 -cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 -cert 
./frameworks.wotsit2  -key ./frameworks.wotsit1 -accept  9192
Using default temp DH parameters
Using default temp ECDH parameters
ACCEPT
140167397615272:error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared 
cipher:s3_srvr.c:1355:
ACCEPT
140167397615272:error:140940E5:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:ssl handshake 
failure:s3_pkt.c:989:
ACCEPT


Window#2

root@sound:/etc/pound# ab -c 1 -n 1 https://127.0.0.1:9192/
This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $>
Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/
Licensed to The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/

Benchmarking 127.0.0.1 (be patient)...SSL handshake failed (1).
140016981235432:error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert 
handshake failure:s23_clnt.c:741:
..done


> The way it (usually) works is:
>  - client sends its list of supported ciphers to server
> - server picks the "best" one, and tells the client to use that
> 
> In the absence of  SSLHonorCipherOrder or equivalent, "best" usually
> means largest
> key size.
> 
> If your "ab" is new enough (2.4.x) then you can tweak the available proto/
> ciphers with the -f and -Z options respectively to see if that helps identify
> or eliminate specific ciphers as the cause.
> If you're using the "ab" from Debian's Apache (2.2.22) you might build
> your own from
> 2.4 for this.
>

Yeah - building(rebuilding) stuff, either ab/OpenSSL/Pound really isn't on my 
list of things - unless I am going to have absolutely zero choice :-(

The only thing I need to do is to prove that the application of Pound/Varnish 
in front of a SSL required site has given the ability to run more req/s.
And then once done - as soon as I can get my hands on a shiny new Intel CPU 
with AES-NI built-in - show that performance is better still.

Cheers

KR

> Otherwise I suspect SSL compression,  you could recompile OpenSSL without
> zlib support, or better still, just patch one line to ab.c and rebuild it:
> 
>   SSL_CTX_set_options(ssl_ctx, SSL_OP_ALL|SSL_OP_NO_COMPRESSION);
> 
> Or, do similar to pound:
>   
> http://www.apsis.ch/pound/pound_list/archive/2012/2012-10/1349447985000/index_html?fullMode=1
> 
> The tshark trace should then show "Compression Method: null"
> instead of "DEFLATE".
> 
> C.
> 
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