On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:13:24 +1000, Alan Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>To CM (ehathgepiurhe), > >Sorry I dismissed your first reports as being not related to >PowerPro specifically being slow. >In your first message about this you said it was happening in >situations where the system is very busy, such as during a CD burn >and when a program "has hung, using 100% of the CPU". > >Now you and others report that it is also happening when the system >is not so busy, so let's investigate it... > >-------------------------------------------------- > >To all those who are experiencing the slow behaviour: > >Bruce is taking his (well deserved) summer break. >This can be an opportunity for us to contribute something >and save him a lot of time and work. > >Of course only Bruce can fix this, but at least we can >help by giving him detailed info about [A] which versions >and [B] which feature is causing this problem. > >-------------------------------------------------- > >[A] which version was the first to be slow? > >If we can say "4.4.0.3b was OK and 4.4.0.3c was slow" >[that is only an example, not actually true] >then Bruce can look at the differences between those two versions. > >That would also benefit those who experience slowness. You will >know which version to use -- until Bruce's vacation is over and >he can make an update which has the latest features without the >slowness. > >It will be time consuming to install different versions to test >where the slowness started, but that will make it less time consuming >for Bruce. > >Versions pwrpro41.zip pwrpro42.zip pwrpro43.zip pwrpro44.zip are >still available from http://powerpro.webeddie.com/download/ >Unfortunately some of the betas between those numbers are not >available in /download/ now, such as ppro4301.zip. >Maybe you still have old beta installers saved locally? > >------------------------------------------------- > >[B] which feature is causing the slowness? > >It doesn't happen for me at all. Using the latest beta 4.5.0.4c, >all my bars are fast and responsive even while other programs >are busy such as during a download. >So if we compare which features we are using, we may find what >causes the problem. > >For example we may discover that "it only happens if you have >tray support installed and a bar which shows tray icons" >[an untrue example again]. > >Features I am using: >- tray support >- an active bar (no tray icons) >- an active bar (tray icons only) >- several bars locked together >- *Info labels (time, date, clip) > >I am not using: >- *Info (expression) >- *Info labels listed under "other" or "resources" >- vdesks >- clipboard tracking ("Track clips" set to NO on the GUI Control tab) >- "Track explorer" on the Setup tab is not checked >- any of the new non-distro plugins such as dll.dll > >Because this mainly seems to be about bars being slow, >can we find out whether all users who experience slowness >have *Info (expression) ? >If so, does the expression refer to a plugin? > >It is possible that the problem is caused by a non-Bruce plugin. >There have been many new/updated plugins recently, such as >regex, dialog, dll. Maybe you are all using one of those? > >-------------------------------------------------- > >I shall start by adding more features to my alternative >config for testing, to see if I can make this slowness happen. > > > > > >Attention: PowerPro's Web site has moved: http://www.ppro.org >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Hi Alan, That's ok - I wrote that it was having problems under load probably because that was when it was most noticeable. I guess this prompted me to be a bit more aware when I was using PowerPro, and that's when I started to notice that it wasn't only when it was under load. Anyway, I've gone back to v4.5 RC 1 at the moment (which is listed as v4.5 final on the PowerPro website). From my limited testing thus far, it definitely seems more responsive that v4.5.04b. According to my download folders, I have the following versions of PowerPro saved locally: v4.1 v4.2 v4.2.01 v4.2.08 v4.2.09 v4.2.10 v4.2.11 v4.3 v4.3 RC v4.3.01 Beta v4.3.03 Beta v4.3.06 Beta v4.3.08 Beta v4.3.10 Beta v4.3.10c Beta v4.4 v4.4.01 Beta v4.4.02 Beta v4.4.03 Beta v4.4.04 Beta v4.4.05 Beta v4.4.06 Beta v4.4.07 Beta v4.4.08 Beta v4.4.09 Beta v4.4.09a Beta v4.4.09b Beta v4.4.10a Beta v4.4.10c Beta v4.4.11a Beta v4.4.12a Beta v4.4.13 Beta v4.4.14 Beta v4.4.14a Beta v4.4.15a Beta v4.4.15c Beta v4.5 RC1 v4.5.01 Beta v4.5.02 Beta v4.5.03 Beta v4.5.03c Beta v4.5.04b Beta (I didn't even realise there was a 4.5.04c Beta until you mentioned it in your message, I must have missed the announcement from Bruce) I try to keep copies of all versions released of any program I have installed on my PC. The only PowerPro one's I've missed are when Bruce releases a version (say for example v4.5.04) - and I'm not reading the messages in this group at the time - and then within a few hours, overwrites that with an 'a' or 'b' version (v4.5.04b in this case). I see the notice for the original verison in this group of course later on when I do get to the messages, but when I go to download it, it has already been replaced by the updated version. Anyway, what I will do is to do some more testing with 4.5 RC1 (I'm especially interested in burning a CD or DVD in Nero and seeing how it goes). Just after Windows startup is also another test I want to do (I noticed 4.5.04b was pretty unresponsive just shortly after Windows startup). I think what I will do then, is to take the installed version back one (say to one of the 4.4.14 or .15 beta's), and run the same tests, and see how they compare. I would like to go back to v4.4 final, but there is a fix in v4.4.02 Beta that I need (where Bruce added some pixels to the bar because the tops of icons were being cut off). As for my PowerPro bar, I only have the one bar (top edge, full screen position, disappears after 50ms, and reappears once you bump the top of the screen for 300ms). It just basically acts as a program launcher. Buttons for programs that I would normally have to go into the Start Menu to access. I don't use any plugins (whatever PowerPro itself has installed into the PowerPro folder is all that I have), and no *info's or tray support either. The only other thing apart from all the buttons I have setup, is that I have one single scheduled event (a reminder note to popup on a Wednesday night once a week to remind me to do a task), and a few setups in the Key/Mouse folder. These only act on 3 or 4 programs when they are launched (for example, remapping Ctrl+M in IrfanView to a Right Click - a message I posed into the group recently). I'm pretty confident these aren't the problem - PowerPro was acting slow when I had no programs open on my PC at all and thus the Key/Mouse setups shouldn't have come into play. All in all, a pretty basic setup compared to what PowerPro could probably do if you understood scripting (I don't, and that's why I really only use it as a program launcher). Still, basic though it is, I can't imagine PC life without it (I know I miss it at work, the PC's there are locked down so we can't install anything), so a responsive version of PowerPro is very important to me. For anyone that is interested, I took a screen capture of my PowerPro bar (what appears when you bump the top of the screen on my PC), and have uploaded it to: http://www.users.on.net/~romulous/Bar.jpg (61Kb). All the icons on this either launch a program directly, or are a Menu-ShowAtButton entry (which subsequently have more icons to launch programs directly on them). Basically I had too many icons to really fit on the one PowerPro bar, so I had to put some of them into ShowAtButton menu's. -- Regards, CM Attention: PowerPro's Web site has moved: http://www.ppro.org Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/power-pro/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
