Thanks Ben, the powerbook and the performa were given to me, their original owner used them together alot they shared many programs with party on each, I don't know how :( he has passed away now so there is no way of asking him, I was sure it was thru the infrared. When I got the two machine they both had system 7.5 in them, I only wish I had not deleted them to do a clean instal with 8.1 before trying the infrared on the two. I'll have to open the performa to see it there is a t.v. turner in there I guess next :(
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