At 13:15 -0400 08/18/2002, PowerBooks wrote:

>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:41:51 -0700
>From: Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>At 4:59 PM -0600 8/17/02, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
>>I seem to recall hearing at one time or another that it is possible to
>>use your home telephone wires (the ones in the wall) in conjunction
>>with a PhoneNet LocalTalk adapter to run a small network to multiple
>>rooms in a house...  Is this possible?
>
>
>Yeah, I've done it.  LocalTalk runs on a spare set of wires (not
>connected to the phone company.  It connects using the outer pair in
>a standard phone jack (RJ-11).


PhoneNet uses the yellow and black wires, to add a bit more detail. 
A typical phone cable uses the red and green wires.  The Y&B are the 
outer wires, the R&G are the inner wires.   Some cables (especially 
those included with modems) may only have the inner two wires.  I 
spent hours troubleshooting once, before figuring that out.  Sigh.

There is a great deal of variation in how houses are wired, 
especially older houses.  It is possible that the Y&B might be in use 
if there is a second line but it is not a certainty and should be 
unlikely for houses wired in the last decade or so.  There may only 
be three wires in a much older house.  Also, you may find that the 
Y&B are present at each jack, but that they are not actually 
connected together between jacks.  This is especially likely if all 
the lines run separately back to a junction box where only the R&G 
were connected to anything.  But you can connect the Y&B lines up 
yourself at the box.

Years ago when I did this trick I did find that PhoneNet on the same 
cable as the phone line puts noise on the phone line.   At least, 
when I was printing to my AT IWII I could hear a stuttering/buzzing 
sound on the phone.

If you are wired for 10BT and are not using it for anything else, you 
can use that wiring.   The RJ45 jack (wide 8 pin jack) will take the 
RJ11 plug just fine and the wires will hook up properly.  You'll just 
need to tie the appropriate wires together whereever the other ends 
of those lines come together.

I wired my house with Cat. 5 a few years ago--spent about two weeks 
in the attic.  :-)   Anywhere I put a wall plate I put at least two 
RJ45 jacks on the plate  (four anywhere a computer might go) with 
corresponding cables back to the wiring closet (top shelf of coat 
closet).   I also took the incoming phone lines and ran them to the 
wiring closet.  With plenty of jacks to each room, I run my 
telephone, ethernet and LocalTalk/PhoneNet on the Cat. 5 lines. 
With panels in the closet it's easy to hook a given line up to 
whatever service I want.  It also makes reconfiguring the telephone 
extensions in the house a breeze.

Jeff Walther

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