[snip /Serial port stuff] I see. So the serial ASIC really is more like ethernet than a dumb I/O controller. That makes a lot of sense, and it also helps explain why Apple never wrote a USB extension to AppleTalk. But really all that the ASIC does by itself is assemble the data given to it by the CPU into a valid LocalTalk packet (putting the data in to packet with headers and application data). Am I getting this right?
So here's my last question on this topic: when the controller is writing data to a modem, say, does it just spit out bytes, or is it doing addressing even then? If so, I wonder why Apple never supported more than one device/controller... if not, then the controller really does switch "modes," as it were, to/from a network controller. I understand how network packets work (packet headers, etc). So a LocalTalk network behaves like an Ethernet network (no surprise) with AppleTalk addresses being analogous to ethernet (MAC) addresses... Where I guess I'm going with this is: USB still shouldn't care. The hardware on the USB chain could provide enough intelligence to work as a LocalTalk port (like ethernet on USB, etc). It's still the AppleTalk software side of things that doesn't make it work. The CPU could still assemble a packet and send it down the USB chain, out the adapter, and onto the LocalTalk LAN. >Yup. I just did it the other day, using my Airport equipped PBG3 >running IPNR to a DUO. The PBG3 was doing NAT behind another router >supplying NAT. Double NAT with Airport in the middle, very geeky I >know. > >I didn't know you couldn't do it so I went ahead and did it, it worked. > Wow, sounds almost exactly like my setup! I've got a Wallstreet w/ WaveLAN (behind another access point/cable router doing NAT) and IPNR doing NAT over ethernet to another access point/router, itself doing NAT to the local LAN. Wallstreet w/ 9.2.2, IPNR 1.5.3. When I've done MacIP/LocalTalk with this setup, it hasn't worked. I used to have a 6100/OS 8.6 running this copy of IPNR (before I had to use the PBG3 as a wireless bridge) serving up MacIP no prob. Similarly, I've used my 5300/8.6 to do this job (but since it's hard to tell when you are connected to an access point with the standard wavelan drivers on the 5300, I dropped that setup). Was that too confusing? It goes: > World<->AP<->PowerBookG3w/IPNR<->AP<->LAN I'd like to do: > />MacIP_LAN > World<->AP<->PBG3<== > \>AP<->LAN Anyway, i'm doing what you are doing more-or-less, but without MacIP. >Nope, LT direct from the FastPath to the PB. If a machine has >Ethernet, I use that directly, not MacIP over EtherTalk. Hmm, that's curious. I'm going to have to try it again. The last time I did this, it absolutely didn't work. Are you sure you are really doing MacIP and not just using LocalTalk bridge? IPNR doesn't complain when you try to do MacIP/LocalTalk under OS 9 and LocalTalk bridge will still pass AppleTalk packets... > >This I've tried with IPNetRouter & OS 9.1. It doesn't work. > >Explain please! I'd love to be wrong here! > >Explaination - It worked! One thing I can think of is that you have >to manually specify IP addresses when using IPNR, it doesn't act as >a MacIP server. >-- Clark Martin When I've got some free time, I'll certainly try this! It would be excellent to get my duo picture frame back online! :-) Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> web: <http://homepage.mac.com/alk/> Want to know if your neighbor has Wi-Fi? Find out with ClassicStumbler! <http://homepage.mac.com/alk/classicstumbler/> -- PowerBooks is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PowerBooks list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
