>I've low-level formatted many IDE/ATA drives, most in desktops, but also in
>my 1.3GB 1400.

Well, color me crazy.

I just tried to LLF an IDE drive in my beige G3.  Drive Setup won't 
let me.  (Since I don't have multiple IDE drives in my laptops, and 
since you can't re-initialize the boot disk, i can't confirm on my 
5300ce or Wallstreet at the moment)

Open Drive Setup.  Click on the drive you want to initialize.  Select 
the "Functions" -> "Initialization Options..." menu.  "Low level 
format" is definitely not available as an option.  It is greyed out 
and not selectable.

I'm suspicious that you were able to do this in any desktop mac. 
Unless you've got one of those Turbo66 or other Sonnet IDE cards 
(which only allow this through the fact that they are 3rd party 
controllers and not "known" to Drive Setup - also some of them 
identify IDE disks as on a SCSI bus).  But I'm pretty sure I've heard 
horror stories on the PowerComputing list about people who LLF'd IDE 
drives connected to these cards...

>I can understand what you say about ATA drives being 'dumb', but if that is
>the case, surely drive setup would do the thinking for it? "write this here,
>and that there" etc etc...?

AFAIK, Drive Setup cannot do this.  Drive setup cannot redefine the 
sectors of an IDE hard drive.

So, to those who say that they have successfully LLF'd an IDE drive, 
I declare shenanigans!  :-)

For the disbelievers:
<http://freepctech.com/pc/001/007.shtml>
<http://www.appletechs.com/archives/00000055.html>
<http://modecideas.com/faq45.htm?faqsubpar>

Peace,
Drew

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