Donn, thank you for your reply.

<It is possible.  But use OT 1.1.2 and Netscape 3.04 Gold.  NS 2 is a
pain. Claris also has problems--tried it, didn't like it, so it just sits
there.  My 190cs has 16MB memory, RamDoublered to 32 MB.>

(1) You mean Claris Emailer has problems, or ClarisWorks? I've never had 
problems with either of those. I had used them on my old Performa 475 
prior to getting my 7200/120, and the versions presently on my PB (1.0 
and 2.0, respectively) are definitely the ones which were on my Performa. 
I even believe I started with NS 2.0 on the Performa as well, and it 
worked OK.  I'd hate to have to find other software to replace either of 
these (Claris Emailer or ClarisWorks) because I'm used to and really like 
the Emailer (Eudora gave me hell), and CWorks 4.0 is on both my PB and 
the 7200 and that's an absolute necessity for me (this is the true reason 
I love my PB, so I don't have to be stuck in my apt to write, and can 
then take what I do on the PB and put it back in the 7200 via floppy 
disk). Normally I don't use CWorks for  communications; that was just an 
experiment to see if I could connect to my ISP on the PB (and therefore 
test the modems as well, except for the Best Data modem which I knew 
worked).

(2) Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question (with computers, I'm only 
a semi-geek, not a real one!), but what is OT 1.1.2 and how would I get 
Netscape 3.04 Gold?  ----Ohhhhh. OT = Open Transport. All right....I've 
got OT 1.1 on my 7200, so I suppose I can copy that to my PB (I'll have 
to check what I have in the OT department there). (Is there REALLY much 
of a difference between 1.1 and 1.1.2?!)

<OT 1.1.2 will work with all of these, and NS 3.04 will retrieve your
mail.  (FreePPP will also work, but can be a PITA.)>

Well, I'd really prefer to use the email retrieval and handling I'm used 
to -- the Claris Emailer and Cybernex ConfigPPP (which is basically 
FreePPP). But...what's a PITA?

<That's one of the things I didn't like about CWorks.  IIRC, CWorks and
NS 2.0 require that a cookie be accepted to read the password.  OT 1.1.2
gets around that, and NS 3.04 will remember your mail password.  (See
Cookies, below.)

<Having to sign onto someone's Web page to get mail just introduces an
unnecessary step, just like using Hotmail or Yayhoooooo.  Further, you
have to sign on, log in, ask for mail, and then stay online to read and
respond to mail.  With NS 3.04 and OT 1.1.2, you can sign on, download
mail, sign off, and respond at your leisure--offline.  If you click on
"Send Mail" the computer will sign back on, send the mail, and wait for
you to check for mail, or just browse about, or sign off again.  NS 3.04
will do Web pages on the 190, but it's bog-slow, and many Web sites
today use later iterations of HTML and JavaScript that don't work well
with NS 3.04.>

Well, yeah, with Claris Emailer, that's what I do: pick up the email, log 
off, read it, reply to it, then sign back on when I'm ready to send.

<This is written on the 190 cs, BTW.>

What's the difference between the 190 and the 190 cs? (This, of course, 
is being written on a 7200/120) unless/until I straighten out the online 
situation with my PB 190.

The only time I go to my ISP's web page to get email is when someone has 
sent me a gigantic attachment which clogs my emailer. Fortunately, it's 
not often. If I ever manage to get online and decide to do email on the 
PB, I want to use the Claris Emailer.

<COOKIES:  I don't like cookies, or cookie alerts, or sites that require
a cookie to work.  You can get around this in NS 3.04 by deliberately
going to a site (something innocuous like "Learn to Count with Humpty
Dumpty") that you know will set a cookie.  Then sign off, and open the
Netscape * folder in your System Preferences Folder.  Find the
MagicCookie file, do a Get Info on it, and lock it.  Do the same with
the Global History file.  Then the snoops think that they can set a
cookie, and that they can snoop around in your history file to see what
porn sites you visit.  Doesn't work.  They're both locked, can't be
written to, and have but one entry in them for "Learn to Count with
Humpty Dumpty."  Since I did this, I get just about zero spam for one
thing, no alerts (the sites **think** they can write to your cookie
file), and two files that stay the same size no matter how much browsing
I do.>

We are in complete agreement on Cookies. Do you know if your strategy (go 
to "Learn to Count With Humpty Dumpty" -- is that an actual site?! -- 
although I do know where else I could go) would work on NS 4.04 on a Mac 
7200/120 running OS 8.1 also? My cookie strategy has always been to 
simply delete the Magic Cookie and Global History files out of the System 
Preferences folder, and then run Cache Killer after each web session -- 
even though I don't visit porn sites -- so it's "clean for next time." On 
the 7200 I have a second browser (iCAB: it's especially for Macs: do you 
know of it?) which has better cookie management than NS; there I delete 
my cookies as I go. I'd use it more often (and transfer it to the PB 
probably) except for the fact that it tends to hang my system a lot and I 
get tired of having to "nerve pinch" my computer to do the "gentle" 
restart.

But if I could lock up the Magic Cookies and Global History in this way, 
it sounds like it'd be a lot easier to maintain my privacy/stop spam (I 
get plenty of that anyway, ugggh). Hmmm, think I'll try it anyway.  :-) 
Thanks!

~Yersinia.

________

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tell you. If not, why embarrass him?" -- Tom Clancy


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