At 10:09 PM -0800 12/2/03, Fabian Fang wrote: >I have read with interest your "longish" post to the PowerBooks List, a hardware >discussion list for Pre-G3 PowerBooks, which your WallStreet is not.
I subscribe to PowerBooks because my 165c is a Pre-G3. As my question is not computer-specific, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong in asking the experts on PowerBooks too. Sorry if I inconvenienced anyone. >To the extent I understand your narrative of the non-hardware problem, there seems to >be a simple solution. Have you considered a clean installation of OS 9.1 or 9.2, >either of which includes all Apple Language Kits? Such Mac OS CDs are widely >available from a number of online dealers, such as MegaMacs.com, HardcoreMac.com, and >OWC. Thanks for the suggestion. I hope I'll be able to find an orthodox solution to my problem for less than $150 - 200. > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, at 07:27PM, Rodney A. Hoiseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>Hi there, >> >>Excuse the post to multiple lists, but I'm not optimistic about a solution to this >>Apple catch-22. >>I'm on digest, so please Cc me or reply directly if you have the answer or a >>suggestion so I won't miss the answer. >>(I've been really busy and have been neglecting a lot of my digests, so if this >>topic has come up before, I'd really appreciate a gentle nudge in the right >>direction...) >> >>I'm using OS 9 on a 233 MHz G3 PowerBook (Wallstreet). >>I bought and have been using OS 9.0.4 - International English - and its Japanese >>Language Kit. >> >>I have downloaded and installed the updates, 9.1 and then 9.2.1 (and 9.2 seems to be >>working great). >>The problem is that I can no longer install the Language kit that is included on my >>OS 9 CD (or can I?). >> >>According to the Read Me and installation instructions for the updates: >>> Apple Language Kits and Mac OS 9.2 >>>Apple's language kits are now included with the Mac OS. If you use language kits, >>>you must upgrade both your system software and your language kits at the same time >>>using the Mac OS 9.2 CD. Versions of Apple language kits prior to Mac OS 9.1 >>>(Language Kits 1.1) are not compatible with Mac OS 9.2. To upgrade your system >>>software and language kits, start up from the Mac OS 9.2 CD by inserting the CD and >>>holding down the C key as you restart the computer. Continue holding down the C key >>>until you see the CD background. Open the Mac OS Installer and click Customize in >>>the Install Software panel. Select both the Mac OS Install and Language Kits, and >>>remember to select the specific language kits you want to upgrade. >> >>Of course since I've downloaded the update, I don't have the CD, and the Language >>Kit is not included in the download. >> >>I'd be willing to pay a bit extra for a CD -- or even buy a new OS package just for >>the "privilege" of continuing to use the Japanese Language Kit -- if they were >>available. >>Well, yesterday I went to the sexy new Apple Store in Ginza (Tokyo) to see if they >>could help me. The nice Apple service rep there told me, "Well, OS 9.2 is not >>available any more." Then in the next breath, he said, "There is one solution: If >>you buy OS X, for an extra 2500 yen, you can order the 9.2.1 CD." > >When I pointed out the contradiction he laughed and said, "Ahem, aah, ..." >>Then I asked if he could point me to a place where I might find a solution, he said, >>"Well, yes, there's the Apple Call Center [Japan]..."; but when I responded, "But >>they'll give me the same answer you just gave me, right?" he said, "Yes." >> >>I'm not ready to upgrade to OS X for a year or two (I've heard contradictory >>statements about how feasible it is on a 233 MHz PowerBook, and I'm not quite ready >>for a new computer), and I don't want to buy OS X now just for the "privilege" of >>buying a CD for a previous [free] update, since there's no guarantee I won't run >>into a similar catch-22 when I'm ready to use it. >> >>So, what are my options? Or do I have any? >> >>Incidentally, I have tried installing the Language Kit for 9.0.4 on a backup boot >>9.1 system on my expansion-bay hard disk and, although it seems to handle Japanese >>applications OK, there seem to be some menu problems, etc. I haven't really compared >>it with the previous (9.0.4) performance, so I don't know exactly what the bugs are >>(and which are "features" ;-). Prior to OS 9, I had been using KanjiTalk on a >>separate partition. [That's still an option, but it's a lot of trouble to switch >>systems between English and Japanese...] > >I'm not misinterpreting the caution in the ReadMe, am I? I do know for a fact that > >the updates refuse to install on 9.0.4 with the Language Kit already installed. > >That comes up in a dialogue box when you try to do the installation. Does anybody > >know what, exactly, are the incompatibilities I'd encounter if I installed the > >Language Kit from the 9.0.4 CD after installing the 9.1/9.2.1 updates? >> >>Regards, >>Rodney >>(in Hayama, Japan) -- PowerBooks is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PowerBooks list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
