I've been in contact with Jerome, and worked out, to my satisfaction, a
solution.  It may not apply to all of you...

The problem filter was "To or cc" "Does not use your real name".  It
turns out that roughly half of the spam coming to me used my name in the
address, and so roughly half the spam was not being identified.  Since I
deleted the problem filter, spamsieve's performance has been nearly flawless.

In what may be a side issue, the spammers who use my real name are
sending spam messages that generally consist of quoted text (Shakespeare,
user manuals, etc.).  I don't know if spamsieve would be able to detect
the spamminess in the body of such messages, and I'm sure it's building
up the corpus like gangbusters.  At any rate, these messages are being
tagged as spam due to headers or addresses or something else.

yours,

Gunnar Madsen

--
Gee, Spot! Records
http://www.gunnarmadsen.com

>PowerMail Engineering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >no, I think by doing this you just skip the "is not in previous"
>> >testing. On my side I *inverted* this last setting: indeed my setup is
>> >ALL / from/send not in address / is in previous : apparently idiot, but
>> >I feel this "not in previous" menu text does the contrary of what it
>> >says...
>>
>> I think that "is in previous recipients" and "is not in previous
>> recipients" works as expected.
>
>Jérôme I am sorry, but I *really* have an isue here, the same as
>Marlyse. If for instance I reset the Spamsieve conditions by running the
>"spam setup assistant" from the prefs, and ask successively for the
>three conditions that lead to the "usual" setup ("not in previous,
>etc.), all new spam jumps right in my incoming folder and I can
>perfectly see SpamSieve is not activated (it is not even launched if it
>doesn't run). I discussed this issue at length in this very list just a
>week ago. I reinstalled PM5 entierely, etc. In the end I discovered that
>suppressing the incoming conditions (asking for a SpamSieve evaluation
>"always") did work. Then I reintroduced the filters one at a time, and I
>found the faulty one being indeed "if sender not in recent" that never
>triggers.
>At present time I can ensure you my settings are
>- if sender not in AdBk
>AND
>- if sender IS in recents
>then evaluate spam
>and this, works.
>If I switch the second condition to "is not", SpamSieve is just not
>used, and all spam flies through.
>
>As I mentioned, this may be a mistranslation in french (here I "see" PM
>in french)
>
>> I also think that you should use "all conditions".
>
>Of course.
>
>> If you use "any condition", all messages will be passed to SpamSieve,
>> except when the sender in both in your address book AND in your recipient
>> history AND the message is addressed using your real name. That is
>> typically too restrictive.
>>
>> >Try it: with just "not in address" alone, it will work, with "not in
>> >previous" alone, it won't.
>>
>> Probably because this sender is in your address book, but you have never
>> sent a message to this address in PM 5 (the "previous recipients" list
>> did not exist in PM 4)?
>
>No. In one of my accounts I get 100 spams/day, and for sure senders are
>not all in my addressbook.
>
>
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>


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