powermail-discuss Digest #2641 - Monday, June 4, 2007
POP login error
by "David Gallanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Data bug in forward messages
by "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Data bug in forward messages
by "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
by "Giovanni Andreani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Data bug in forward messages
by "Rene Merz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
by "Rene Merz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Data bug in forward messages
by "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
by "Giovanni Andreani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
changing account on send
by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: changing account on send
by "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: POP login error
From: "David Gallanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:32:13 +0300
Hello,
I am getting an error when logging in to a particular account - AFAIK no
settings have been altered. Using PowerMail 5.5.3, the error "inserting
into vlog table" occurs.
I have trashed preferences, erased and re-entered the account details,
all to no avail. I have sent this query to PowerMail support, but, so
far, they must be too busy to respond.
With Apple's Mail.app, there is no problem.
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Subject: Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:09:33 +0200
Rene Merz suggested:
>Maybe you can get-it in a tricky way, Giovanni:
>
>Try to create a new SMTP-account with a possible but not existing address
>of a fictional mail-host.
>
>
>>Conditions
>>If number of recipients To or CC > 1
>>Receive mode is not BCC
>>
>>Actions
>>Display Alert "No BCC Set!"
>Set Account (choose the fictional account)
>>Move message into folder Folder Name
>
>(Of course, PM will produce an error message.)
That was tricky. And useful actually. Thanks!
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD
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Subject: Re: Data bug in forward messages
From: "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:09:33 +0200
This is what this shows (Swedish Translation):
---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
Ämne: Re: Data bug in forward messages
Skickat: måndag 28 maj 2007 12.31
Från: Tim Lapin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Try a test. After reading this message, click the Forward button. You
should notice some header information inserted into the message below a
line of dashes. What do the dates show?
----------------- Slut vidareskickat brev -----------------
Another message:
---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
Ämne: Re: filerna
Skickat: torsdag 10 maj 2007 14.32
A third message:
---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
Ämne: j_security_check 404 not found
Skickat: tisdag 1 maj 2007 11.07
As you see the dates are not the same.
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD
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Subject: Re: Data bug in forward messages
From: "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:06:26 -0400
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On 6/4/2007 9:09 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
> This is what this shows (Swedish Translation):
>
>
> ---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
> Ämne: Re: Data bug in forward messages
> Skickat: måndag 28 maj 2007 12.31
> Från: Tim Lapin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Try a test. After reading this message, click the Forward button. You
> should notice some header information inserted into the message below a
> line of dashes. What do the dates show?
>
> ----------------- Slut vidareskickat brev -----------------
>
>
> Another message:
> ---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
> Ämne: Re: filerna
> Skickat: torsdag 10 maj 2007 14.32
>
> A third message:
>
> ---------------- Vidareskickat brev ----------------
> Ämne: j_security_check 404 not found
> Skickat: tisdag 1 maj 2007 11.07
>
> As you see the dates are not the same.
>
Unfortunately, your tests are incomplete as they should show TWO dates
for each message and you only show one. Perhaps it's a setting one can
tweak?
The goal, as I understood the original poster's problem, was to compare
the two dates shown in the forwarded message and check whether they are
the same. At any rate, I see the correct dates when I do it but to get
back to the person's problem, I will show what I see when I get home and
am at my Mac.
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Subject: Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
From: "Giovanni Andreani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:33:09 +0200
>Maybe you can get-it in a tricky way, Giovanni:
>
>Try to create a new SMTP-account with a possible but not existing address
>of a fictional mail-host.
Sorry, I can't get it to work.
Could you describe how this way should work?
Thank you
Giovanni
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Giovanni Andreani
PM 5.2.2 | OS X 10.3.9 | Power Mac G5/1.8GHz BiPro | 1GB RAM | 150GB HD
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Subject: Re: Data bug in forward messages
From: "Rene Merz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:41:24 +0200
Here you have the proof of the problem:
First line is SUBJECT
Second Line is SENDING DATE AND TIME
Third Line is RECEIVING DATE AND TIME
But as I found out in the meantime, the _real_ bug is a small and
conditional one:
If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case)
then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and
receiving.
But there is no bug, if the two dates are different.
---------------- Begin of Forwarded Message ----------
---------------- Anfang Weiterleitung ----------------
Betreff: Data bug in forward messages
Gesendet: Montag, 21. Mai 2007 10:02 Uhr
Empfangen: Montag, 21. Mai 2007 10:02 Uhr
Von: Rene Merz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: PowerMail discussions <powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com>
The header, integrated in the text body, of messages which are ready for
forwarding has a little bug:
The sending and receiving datas shows allways the same day and the same
time - which cannot be.
----------------- Ende Weiterleitung -----------------
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Subject: Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
From: "Rene Merz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:51:26 +0200
Giovanni Andreani hat am Montag, 04. Juni 2007 geschrieben:
>>Maybe you can get-it in a tricky way, Giovanni:
>>
>>Try to create a new SMTP-account with a possible but not existing address
>>of a fictional mail-host.
>
>Sorry, I can't get it to work.
>Could you describe how this way should work?
Well, simply by the fact, that PM cannot deliver a message on the way of
a non existing SMTP-account. It produces an error message but the script
places the message in the choosen folder anyway.
After correcting the CC to BCC, of course, you have to choose an other
sending account for the message, a real existing account this time.
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Subject: Re: Data bug in forward messages
From: "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:09:50 -0400
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On 6/4/2007 10:41 AM, Rene Merz wrote:
> Here you have the proof of the problem:
>
> First line is SUBJECT
> Second Line is SENDING DATE AND TIME
> Third Line is RECEIVING DATE AND TIME
>
> But as I found out in the meantime, the _real_ bug is a small and
> conditional one:
>
> If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case)
> then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and
> receiving.
> But there is no bug, if the two dates are different.
>
Ah, that is a subtle one indeed. I will test this tonight, time permitting.
What puzzles me is why Mikael Bystrom would only see *one* date line and
not two? Like you, I have always seen two dates. Perhaps it's due to
his localization of PowerMail?
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Subject: Re: Setting Criteria Before Sending Messages
From: "Giovanni Andreani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:23:14 +0200
>Giovanni Andreani hat am Montag, 04. Juni 2007 geschrieben:
>
>>>Maybe you can get-it in a tricky way, Giovanni:
>>>
>>>Try to create a new SMTP-account with a possible but not existing address
>>>of a fictional mail-host.
>>
>>Sorry, I can't get it to work.
>>Could you describe how this way should work?
>
>Well, simply by the fact, that PM cannot deliver a message on the way of
>a non existing SMTP-account. It produces an error message but the script
>places the message in the choosen folder anyway.
>After correcting the CC to BCC, of course, you have to choose an other
>sending account for the message, a real existing account this time.
Thank you for the explanation, Rene.
I actually have an "empty" account set as the default one to avoid
sending messages from the wrong account, therefore I can fall in error
just the same if it comes to send to multiple addresses.
Probably I should look onto the script side to solve the problem.
Giovanni
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Giovanni Andreani
PM 5.2.2 | OS X 10.3.9 | Power Mac G5/1.8GHz BiPro | 1GB RAM | 150GB HD
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Subject: changing account on send
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:07:34 -0500
coming across a really weird bug :
select account A for the email when composing. all good. click on send -
puts it in the outbox (correctly) but while doing so, changes the from
name to a different account (one which I do NOT want to use and have not
selected and is nowhere set in the account prefs to be that for account
A. basically it switches the identity from selected account A to account
B while putting it into the outbox.
anyone see this behavior? any simple remedy, next to deleting accounts
and trying to re-setup?
note: I ended up deleting the account because it was doing this to
several email going out and I needed it to go out with the correct
account. the moment the account B was deleted, all other accounts would
stick as set originally.
but still curious if somebody else has come across this and if there was
an easier solution.
thanks!
---marlyse
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Subject: Re: changing account on send
From: "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:19:16 -0400
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On 6/4/2007 1:07 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote:
> coming across a really weird bug :
>
> select account A for the email when composing. all good. click on send -
> puts it in the outbox (correctly) but while doing so, changes the from
> name to a different account (one which I do NOT want to use and have not
> selected and is nowhere set in the account prefs to be that for account
> A. basically it switches the identity from selected account A to account
> B while putting it into the outbox.
>
> anyone see this behavior? any simple remedy, next to deleting accounts
> and trying to re-setup?
Never saw this myself.
Might it be a long forgotten filter/script combo?
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