powermail-discuss Digest #2853 - Monday, July 7, 2008

  Re: Show Hide PM
          by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Show Hide PM
          by "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Show Hide PM
          by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: Re: Show Hide PM
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:31 +0900

Am/On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:26:18 +0200 schrieb/wrote MB:

>Matthias Schmidt said:
>
>>may I ask to finally fix this show hide bug?
>>It's been a long time around now - imho far too long.
>
>I'd like to point out again that I don't have this problem under 10.4.8
>and I can't make it happen by using any of the earlier given
>suggestionsin other threads on how to reproduce it.

that you can't reproduce the bug, doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exists.
and btw you OS is far out dated.

As others wrote, this is obviously a bug, so you be happy, that you
don't have this problem.

>Also, I don't recall it have ben established that the error is to be
>blamed on PowerMail, though it can't be ruled out either.

please write understandable English - thank you.

>
>Have you reported the bug also to Apple?

as I said before, this problem doesn't occur with software I use, so I
hardly can blame Apple for that.
Additional for filing a bug, I'd need to know, which API is used.
I think that would be the job of ctmdev and not mine.

Thanks and all the best
Matthias


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Subject: Re: Show Hide PM
From: "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:58:57 +0200

Matthias Schmidt :

>that you can't reproduce the bug, doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exists.
Mattias, I have not said it doesn't exist. That's NOT my style of
responding. OK?
But if I can't reproduce it means it's not a bug that exist in every
installation of PowerMail, right?

>As others wrote, this is obviously a bug, so you be happy, that you
>don't have this problem.
It is a bug, yes, but in order for us to have any hope to have this bug
fixed, it would be advised that someone finds out whether this bug due
because of some fallacy of PowerMail or if its an OS-caused bug. I'm not
sure how CTM looks at it, but as PowerMail is NOT the only application
in known history to have this problem, it's probably safe to assume that
we can not be satisfied crying wolf to CTM will solve things.

At a minimum, CTM would need to able to reproduce the bug. It seems to
me, with earlier responses at hand, that there seem to not be one clear
cause behind different peoples hiding problems with PowerMail.

>and btw you OS is far out dated.
That's really 100% beside the point. Didn't this bug exist with 10.4.8?
Earlier reports have indicated it did exist with this version.


Mikael

Technoids:
PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook
G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB


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Subject: Re: Show Hide PM
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:42:05 +0900

Am/On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:58:57 +0200 schrieb/wrote MB:

>>that you can't reproduce the bug, doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exists.
>Mattias, I have not said it doesn't exist. That's NOT my style of
>responding. OK?
>But if I can't reproduce it means it's not a bug that exist in every
>installation of PowerMail, right?

the problem with this bug is anyway, that it doesn't occur always.
And I'm not sure, if Chris' "workaround" with opening a blanc window
really works.
It never came to my mind that the problem might be related to open a window.

>
>>As others wrote, this is obviously a bug, so you be happy, that you
>>don't have this problem.
>It is a bug, yes, but in order for us to have any hope to have this bug
>fixed, it would be advised that someone finds out whether this bug due
>because of some fallacy of PowerMail or if its an OS-caused bug. I'm not
>sure how CTM looks at it, but as PowerMail is NOT the only application

this is my problem right now.
For me PM is in the moment the only app with that problem.
I had before problems with some apps from Adobe, but it seams they don't
have it anymore.
So too me it looks like that PM is the only app left with this problem.


>in known history to have this problem, it's probably safe to assume that

assumptions are evil ....
(that saying isn't from me)

>we can not be satisfied crying wolf to CTM will solve things.
>
>At a minimum, CTM would need to able to reproduce the bug. It seems to
>me, with earlier responses at hand, that there seem to not be one clear
>cause behind different peoples hiding problems with PowerMail.

I don't know what really is the source of the problem, the Carbon API
used by CTM, the implementation or something else.


>
>>and btw you OS is far out dated.
>That's really 100% beside the point. Didn't this bug exist with 10.4.8?

actually I don't remember when this issue was introduced.
I just avoid hiding PM since some time now, because force quit quite
often requires an index rebuild and that takes time....

Anyway, I'd update to 10.4.11, else you miss all the security updates
and that is a security issue.


Thanks and all the best

Matthias


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