Dennis,

On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

> I was as frustrated as all of you with the situation that we have and
> perhaps the only real solution here is to work together, as a  
> community, to
> get some sort of hardware solution going that we can all actually  
> work with.
> Something with all the specs and all the right people in the right  
> place
> working with a common vision. Yes, we may need to go back to step  
> zero and
> review a pile of code, again, but at least we will have an ample  
> supply of
> workable hardware.

...which is what the Apple stuff gives you. Say what you will about  
Apple as a company (I am not a terribly huge fan of them as a company)

> Forget the Apple stuff.  You can not get all the technical specs for  
> it. If
> you are in love with the Apple hardware then I wish you well and I  
> pat you
> on the back. Be sure to write a post card from time to time to let  
> us know
> how you are doing with reverse engineering all those closed design  
> specs.


Oh, I guess those "non-existant" macppc FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD  
ports are something we should just pretend don't exist to support the  
position you happen to favor, then? I'm sure the Efika is a great eval  
environment but it's also missing the point when it comes to  
affordable hardware availability.

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