I am CCing the powerpc-discuss

First of all thanks Joerg for a nice summary.

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> I thought about our project and tried to find the essential tasks....
> please comment.

Yes, that is the list. I think we discussed it earlier ...

> Kernel Space / boot:
> 
> -     GRUB

GRUB2 works in it current state.
Needs to be augmented with UFS support from Legacy GRUB/Solaris x86.
GRUB2 network support for OpenFirmware limbo. Good thing is that GRUB2
community is actively working on it.

> 
> -     multiboot

The plans for PPC multiboot were recently discussed on GRUB2 mailing
list. Also good for us since we are not the only one consumer for this
feature.

> 
> -     Kernel Virtual memory layout
> 
> -     HAT layer
> 
> -     Interrupt handler
> 
> -     Exception handler
> 
> -     Syscall handler
> 
> -     krtld

All the above are quite a lot of work, but if we get help from the
SunLabs with the 2.5.1 sources we may march through this quite quickly.

> 
> -     minimal drivers

That is the part where we need _official_ documentation from Marvell.
Their chip is in the middle of the Pegasos and a lot of things require
exact knowledge of the chip to drive it correctly.

> 
> User Space:
> 
> -     ld.so

Yeah, may be common in part with krtld.
> 
> -     mdb

Very important thing. In fact having a reliable debugger is
a most important thing, IMHO.
> 
> 
> I propose the following way:
> 
> -     Start with GRUB installed on Linux - Grub should support
>       the needed filesystems
> 
> -     Write multiboot for PPC ----> What is needed here?

Dig GRUB2 ML archive - they have something.

> 
> -     Do not use a network boot (except for e.g. loading the boot archive)
>       as this would create the need for a MAC driver.

We are in somewhat good shape here since one of the Ethernet interfaces
on Pegasos II is Realtek. So driver shouldn't be a problem. And, frankly
speaking, I am a big fun of network boot :)

> 
> -     For everything that needs HW access in the first attempt, use
>       callbacks to the Openboot drivers. This is e.g. /dev/console
>       and the HD driver.

console IO - yes, definitely. As for HD - I am not sure. As I said
I prefer to netboot until the HD driver chain is ready.

> 
> -     Use statically linked user space programs first

Looks like we'll simply _have_ to do it initially, until
ld.so.1 is here to take care of dynamic linking.

> 
> Questions: 
> 
> -     who has skills in what?

I can make pizzas. On the second thought it doesn't seem to
be relevant here ;) Kernel coding - that's where I can help
most.


Regards,
        Cyril

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