On Friday 21 April 2006 23:41, Danny Kukawka wrote:
> How is the current state of k/powersave on kubuntu? I noticed that now the
> current versions are in the universe repository.  Is there a chance that
> both are default for the next kubuntu?

It is very unlikely that we will be able to have (k)powersave by default in 
Dapper, since we have already passed the beta mark (and Dapper has a long 
support). But having it in universe with many kubuntu-developers using it is 
already a major step in right direction.

> I read the thread in the forum [1] and I have some notes:
>
> * I think it make really sense to add a s2ram package to kubuntu. This
> should workaround many of the suspend2ram problems the users have in the
> thread and if a machine isn't listed at the moment, they should follow the
> page Stefan wrote at opensuse [2.1]. IMO they maybe should also take a look
> at [2.2] (both wiki pages are currently for SUSE, but the most should also
> match kubuntu). All reports back to us would improve the tool.

True, but even better would be that we would depend on acpi-support whitelist 
in /usr/share/acpi-support (in Ubuntu). It looks to me that it is even more 
up-to-date. Any plans that s2ram would merge with this effort in future?
How is s2ram packaged in SuSE? As separate package or part of powersave?
Problem is again that suspend to RAM does not work on my system, therefore I 
cannot test and integrate it that easily (and I would not like to push for 
something I did not test that late in the process).

> * I noticed also that some users have problems with cpufreq. I tested a
> littlebit on a x86_64 machine (with older packages) and I noticed that
> there was no powernow-k8 module was loaded. They should alway check if
> there is in /sys/devices/system/cpu/... a cpufreq directory and if all
> governours are available (are the modules loaded?) and if they can set them
> with (select one of them):
>   echo "ondemand/userspace/powersave/performance" > scaling_govenor

I think this is only on amd64, but I do not have HW to be able to confirm 
this. I will try to get a hold on amd64 laptop and test this.

> * I'm not shure (Stefan or Holger can say more about this), but I think we
> don't use the laptop_mode script by default on SUSE. Maybe there are
> sidekicks, but powersave set some disk settings already in the
> set_disk_settings script. I think it make sense to disable laptop_mode by
> default if there is powersave running.

Laptop mode is great and we have to support it. This hibernation slow down 
seems to be also with regular Ubuntu, therefore I expect it will get 
addressed soon.
I am thinking on patching powersave with support for laptop_mode if it would 
be required to stop it for suspend to disk. We will probably just depend on 
laptop-mode-tools package for this.

> * I would appreciate if the users from the thread would write at least
> about not kunbuntu specific problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This would help improve K/powersave.

True, but it is hard to persuade web forum people to switch to mailing list or 
other forum that they are used. I will try to send open issues that I cannot 
address to powersave-devel at least.

> I hope this help a littlebit. Btw.: You make a great job integrate
> powersave in kubuntu and support your users.

It helps and I really appreciate your work also on testing - this have helped 
a lot for getting new powersave in after UpstreamVersionFreeze.
I have started to work on this (k)powersave only to make it work on my laptop, 
but now it have become a small hobby project for me. I really would like to 
use Edgy (next Ubuntu release) as a playground where we would bring powersave 
even more integrated in Ubuntu (installed by default, System Settings module 
for configuration).
I also hope that all this power management efforts could be a bit more aligned 
as we can see the same/similar stuff is implemented on many places.

Regards,
Luka
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