On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 09:35:14AM +0200, Luka Renko wrote:
 
> True, but even better would be that we would depend on acpi-support whitelist 
> in /usr/share/acpi-support (in Ubuntu). It looks to me that it is even more 
> up-to-date. Any plans that s2ram would merge with this effort in future?

I already imported the acpi-support whitelist into s2ram some weeks ago, when
we switched to the whitelist.c array.
The advantage of s2ram is, that you do not need vbetool, radeontool and
what else is required since everything is integratd into s2ram.

> How is s2ram packaged in SuSE? As separate package or part of powersave?

It is in a separate package, "suspend", where the userspace suspend tools
will be once we are past 10.1 and start using uswsusp.

> Problem is again that suspend to RAM does not work on my system, therefore I 
> cannot test and integrate it that easily (and I would not like to push for 
> something I did not test that late in the process).

I can understand that very well :-)

> > * I'm not shure (Stefan or Holger can say more about this), but I think we
> > don't use the laptop_mode script by default on SUSE. Maybe there are
> > sidekicks, but powersave set some disk settings already in the
> > set_disk_settings script. I think it make sense to disable laptop_mode by
> > default if there is powersave running.
> 
> Laptop mode is great and we have to support it. This hibernation slow down 
> seems to be also with regular Ubuntu, therefore I expect it will get 
> addressed soon.
> I am thinking on patching powersave with support for laptop_mode if it would 
> be required to stop it for suspend to disk. We will probably just depend on 
> laptop-mode-tools package for this.

Powersave already has laptop-mode integrated, see /etc/powersave/disk, you can
enable it in the schemes by setting DISK_STANDBY_MODE and DISK_ACOUSTIC.

We are not enabling it per default since the power savings from disk spindown
are just not worth it, but for everybody who wants to use it, it is already
there.

If there are features missing in the powersave "laptop-mode" that are present
in the "original" implementation, just report them and i will be glad to
implement them.

> I also hope that all this power management efforts could be a bit more 
> aligned 
> as we can see the same/similar stuff is implemented on many places.

Unfortunately it looks like there are just too different views about how
stuff should be done. The "do everything through HAL"-fraction is louder
than us, and they in fact seem to not like "too many features" which will
make it hard to implement the current feature set via their methods.

But we will try to at least be compatible to their (very limited) feature set
where we can.
-- 
Stefan Seyfried
QA / R&D Team Mobile Devices        |              "Any ideas, John?"
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg  | "Well, surrounding them's out." 

Stefan Seyfried                  \ "I didn't want to write for pay. I
QA / R&D Team Mobile Devices      \ wanted to be paid for what I write."
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg \                    -- Leonard Cohen
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