Hi Derek, On Saturday 24 June 2006 23:27, Derek Broughton wrote: > On Friday 23 June 2006 19:53, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Friday 23 June 2006 20:48, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 June 2006 07:55, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > > As you know, we're pondering what would be the best solution for the > > > > upcoming Edgy Eft release of Kubuntu. We have a pretty tight release > > > > schedule, with a feature freeze in 11 weeks from now. We are planning > > > > to implement a small powermanagement solution for this next release. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > We're definitely not out to duplicate efforts, we're looking for a > > > > temporary solution that does it well enough for the moment. > > > > > > So what's wrong with using kpowersave? I've been using it with dapper > > > for months already. > > > > It's not integrated with the acpi infrastructure / scripts of Dapper, > > No, it's not. I found that out immediately when I subscribed here because > of my own problems with kpowersave, when it became obvious that nobody knew > about those scripts :-) However, imo, a better solution would be to look > at how to make that integration - or whether there's any need for it - > rather than creating something else that doesn't integrate. I'd prefer to > ditch the existing acpi scripts - they are almost completely non-kde aware > and don't appear to be any better integrated with gnome (one reason I came > to kpowersave was that the few KDE hooks in the acpi scripts didn't work > for me).
I tried it, it didn't work, yet no one was able to help me. Then I gave up. The problem is that when I hook the hibernate script into the suspend2 scriptlet, I'm not able to use the kdialog parts of the suspend script, it seems to not be able to connect the dcop calls that are made. Switching the kdialog feature of, it would ignore some of the settings I made in the hibernate script and I have really no idea why. It definitely *does* run the hibernate script, but the environment seems to be messed up in some way that it cripples the hibernate script. The result is a system which is barely usable post-resume. > > that'd be the main reason. Then there is a dependancy on powersave which > > makes it a problem when you've two desktops installed. > > I don't really see the problem. So you install it and it installs > powersaved. Most people won't even notice. powersaved conflicts with powernowd, which is a dependancy of gnome-power-manager. That's another problem, it might be solved at another level, but it certainly adds up. > > Third, it's not KISS enough. > > imo, if it just had a graphical tool to maintain some of the config > settings it would be practically perfect. So, better to devote developer > time to building that - which would be greatly appreciated here, I expect, > than to building another temporary powersave solution (I have a horrible > fear of temporary solutions - they tend never to die). As I said, it's not just the frontend. Moreover, we're planning to move over part of the functionality into HAL in the long run (cpu frequency scaling, for example). > > I've played with it for quite some time, but didn't get it to play nicely > > for all the stuff I want it to do, for example, it still screws up my > > suspend2 setup, while it should "Just Work". > > No way! suspend2 isn't even part of Ubuntu, why should kpowersave under > Ubuntu be expected to work with it? If ubuntu is going to start shipping > suspend2 enabled kernels, I'll probably be wanting this too, because > there's lots to be desired with suspend2, but right now I think it's unfair > to criticize kpowersave for not working in ubuntu with non-ubuntu kernel > mods. We're discussing using suspend2 for the next Ubuntu release, and we definitely want the user to be able to use suspend2 -- at least I do. I'm not criticizing kpowersave, I just want a tool that works well in my setup. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So many beautiful women and so little time. - John Barrymore
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