Salam,

I just wanna share a lil opinion of mine on the statement by Mario on 
the point of 'freedom of expression' with a reference to the American 
public. to quote his comment: 

"amerika menjadi gudang para pemikir krn. berpikir dan berbicara 
dibiarkan lepas dan bebas." 

I am a lil bit disagree with his statement that freedom of speech has 
been wholly guaranteed by the American government. the freedom of 
speech in America has been cut down by the fact that those books or 
articles that have been written by those 'great writers' are mostly 
for the sake of government's propaganda. 

while at the same time, those who have sincerely expressed 
the 'reality' has either been expelled from the positions they held 
or has been deprived of the priviliges the academicians possess.

To take a lil example, we must have not forgotten that the idea of 
the clash of civilizations proposed by Samuel P. Huntington in the 
late 1990s has become the benchmark of the on going 'crusade' of the 
Bush administration. this idea has been perfecly suited for the 
benefit of the 'American interests' that the world has to bear the 
effects of the megalomanic ambitions of those in power.

Furthermore, in his book, Economic Democracy, J.W. Smith has 
explained 'freedom of speech' in America at length and concluded 
that 'there is no such freedom of speech in America but a mere 
disguised for the government's propaganda.'

So, referring to the freedom of speech in America as our standard is 
like stepping back into the world of a 'disguised' democracy 
Indonesia has experienced for the past three decades that provided 
certain kind of 'freedoms'. Do we wanna be in that state 
of 'freedom'? CERTAINTLY NOT! 

And as such, im very much in agreement with Mario's statement that, 
to quote his statement again,  

" biarlah rakyat berbicara selagi masih ingin berbicara. karena 
berbicara itu merupakan aspirasi. dan dari aspirasi wacana lah 
biasanya bermunculan tokoh2 cerdas nasional yg aspiratif."

I hope that this share of knowledge would enlightened us all in order 
to create a better world for us and for our future generations. 

Let's keep this lively discussion going, shall we?!



Regards,

Qisa'i
Pol Scie,
AMU Aligarh


--- In [email protected], Mario Gagho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> last but not least, kami hargai keinginan bapak untuk
> menutup diskusi ini untuk sementara. harapan itu tentu
> tak dapat saya iyakan atau tidakkan. terserah rekan2
> lain. krn. wacana adalah satu2nya privelege yg
> dimiliki rakyat, dan rakyat berhak untuk memutuskan
> iya dan tidaknya. biarlah rakyat berbicara selagi
> masih ingin berbicara. karena berbicara itu merupakan
> aspirasi. dan dari aspirasi wacana lah biasanya
> bermunculan tokoh2 cerdas nasional yg aspiratif.
> amerika menjadi gudang para pemikir krn. berpikir dan
> berbicara dibiarkan lepas dan bebas. 
> 
> berbicara bebas dalam bentuk tulisan di forum seperti
> ini merupakan cikal bakal ke arah menulis artikel dan
> kemudian berpuncak pada penulisan buku. tidakkah kita
> bangga apabila nanti kita melihat para alumni india yg
> menjadi pejabat tinggi dan juga penulis buku produktif
> seperti Sukarno di Indonesia, Jawaharlal Nehru dan
> Mahatma Gandhi di India?
> 
> yg paling terakhir, as a matter of fact, tentu saja
> rakyat membutuhkan layanan PNS dari membuat ktp,
> paspor, dll. tapi, apakah dg demikian berarti kami tak
> boleh membahas soal PNS? tampaknya, dalam poin ini,
> gap generasi tua - muda perlu dijembatani dg cara,
> apalagi, kalau bukan dg meneruskan diskusi... :)
> 
> salam hangat, 
> 
> p.s. buat pak suhadi, waktu saya ke ppi, saya sempat
> makan nasi yg berasnya sumbangan dari bapak. kayaknya
> "budaya" itu perlu diteruskan... :)
> 
>





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