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Interview of Stanley Hilton, Sept 10, 2004 [ Post
292937891 ]
Category: News & Opinion (General) Topic: Crime &
Corruption
Synopsis: 9/11 Lawsuit
Source: Alex Jones Radio Show
Published: September 13, 2004 Author: Alex Jones,
Stanley Hilton
For Education and Discussion Only. Not for
Commercial Use.
Interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 9/11
taxpayers lawsuit
Alex Jones Radio Show
September 10, 2004
AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Doles chief
of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He
represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11.
He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major
Zogby poll out half of New Yorkers think the
government was involved in 9/11. And joining us for
the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley
Hilton. Stanley, its great to have you on with us.
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: Well have to recap this when we start the next
hour, but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit
going, youve deposed a lot of military officers. You
know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is
your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets
Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth,
Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and
abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually
ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to
happen. We have some very incriminating documents as
well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered
this event to happen in order to gain political
advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on
behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in
the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just
quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons.
At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with
Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I
know these people personally. And we used to talk
about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior
thesis on this very subject how to turn the U.S. into
a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus
Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in
the planning at least 35 years.
AJ: Thats right. They were all Straussian followers of
a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up
here in America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of
people and youve got your $7 million dollar lawsuit
with hundreds of the victims families involved.
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new
and incriminating evidence youve got of them ordering
the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers
class action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of
the families and the basic three arguments are they
violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And
secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims
Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented
false and fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the
Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related it
to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved with
that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, weve got to
break. Lets come back and get into the evidence.
BREAK
AJ: Alright my friends, second hour, September 10th,
2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming
up tomorrow. Its an amazing individual we have on the
line. Bob Doles former chief of staff, political
scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld
and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn
America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor
attack. Hes suing the U.S. government for carrying out
9/11. He has hundreds of the victims families signing
onto it its a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley
Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us
in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and
Florida and all over. Please sir, recap what you were
just stating and then lets get into the new evidence.
And then well get into why you are being harassed by
the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who
have been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is
really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally
not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it.
The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is
married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S.
undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by
the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this
country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an
FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this
was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally
ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have
incriminating evidence, documents as well as
witnesses, to this effect. Its not just incompetence
in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact
is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at
one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason
why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on
September 11th when those videos showed that Andrew
Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about
this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story,
is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These
people had dress rehearsed this many times. He had
seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a
Freudian slip a few months later at a California press
conference when he said he had, quote, seen on
television the first plane attack the first tower. And
that could not be possible because there was no video.
What it was was the simulated video that he had gone
over. So this was a personally government ordered
thing.
We are suing them under the Constitution for violating
Americans rights, as well as under the federal
Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent
claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle
war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO
statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization
Act, for being a corrupt entity.
And Ive been harassed personally by the chief judge of
the federal court who is instructing me personally to
drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court,
after 30-years on the court. I've been harassed by the
FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My
office has been broken into and this is the kind of
government we are dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out five separate
drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that
morning which you told us about before it even broke
in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out
ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that
morning. Then to get out ahead of that, the news
finally reported on it. Now, weve learned that all
these operations I want to get into that, I want to
talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering
it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in
the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in
the mainstream news but they wont release the details
of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment are
you going through?
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San
Francisco several months ago. Files were gone through
and some files were seized particularly the ones
dealing with the lady that was married to one of the
hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden
place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more
significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of
my staff members and threatening them with vague but
frightening threats of indicting them. And its just
total harassment. They have planted a spy, an
undercover agent, in my organization, as we just
recently discovered. In other words, these are Nazi
Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you
have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, Bob Doles former chief of
staff. Well come back after this quick break. Please
stay with us.
BREAK
AJ: Alright, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second
hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob
Doles former chief of staff, is suing the government
for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for
racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I
first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton
after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that
interview got massive attention. And then he kind of
went underground for a while because a judge, were
going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any
more interviews. And now hes back doing interviews.
Hes had his office broken into, FBI threats and
harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed military
individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a
government operation. It has even come out in
mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They had
drills on 9/11, thats why NORAD stood down. Cheney was
in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now
gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole
operation. And Ill tell you right now, his life is in
danger, folks. And hes got so much courage. He went to
school with these neocons at the University of
Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government
could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He
is the man for the time and folks wondered why he
disappeared for a while and just did his lawsuit and
wasnt doing interviews, it was because he was ordered
to.
Stanley, can you get into that for us?
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March
of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally
two weeks after that, I was contacted by the emissary
of the chief judge of the federal court where I have
the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but
to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And
it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and
then I got on the air on some programs and some
publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly by
the chief judge here, threatened with court
discipline. This particular judge has been circulating
communiqus to the other federal judges seeking
anything negative she can get against me to try and
discipline me after Ive been on the court here for
30-years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is
suddenly happening. And her assistants who are on the
committee of the court met with me on July 1st in Palo
Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They
handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the
judge wants me to dismiss this. Whats this? She doesnt
like the content of it. This is politically incorrect.
This is outside the norm. I said I represented more
than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this
case? And they threatened me directly and they said,
the next time youll be disciplined. And also theyve
threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is just
outrageous.
AJ: Its all color of law. No direct orders, just all
in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny
its because of the political content of the suit but
they told me directly on the phone that it is because
of this suit and this judge is very, very angry,
apparently has been in contact with Ashcrofts Justice
Department. I got a call from Ashcrofts Justice
Department a few months ago about this, demanding that
I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds
of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now lets go back over, you had them break into
your office, harassment. Lets go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The
file cabinets it was obvious they had been rifled
through. Files were stolen. Files dealing with this
particular case and particularly with the documents I
had regarding the fact that the some of these
hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll
of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double
agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S.
And, in effect, all this lead up to the effect that al
Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration,
basically. Thats the entity that he called al Qaeda.is
directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was
stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just
part of the harassment. The FBI has also been
harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy
in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these
Nazi tactics are being used - and the obstruction of
justice, these people are criminals. And thats whats
happening under the tremendous pressure here to just
drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away.
AJ: Now, lets talk about what they want you to drop.
Lets talk about, without giving names, the people you
deposed, what really happened, the picture youve got.
You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were
simulating this which they now admit there were
simulations on that morning. Lets go over what they
dont want you to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as
witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI
agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials in
the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that
deal with the fact that there were many drills, many
rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen
this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out
at a press conference in California a few months after
9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane
hit the first building on the video. And thats not
possible because there was no official video of that.
There was one of the second plane not the first one.
He had seen the first one.
We do have some incriminating documents that Bush
personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A
FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there
the night before September 10th, that is
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the
911 Commission, admitted that Tripod II. They had
their whole command post already moved out of Building
7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key
area of this whole event. You said months before it
came out on the CIAs own website and the Associated
Press, you said I deposed people. They said there were
drills that morning and exactly what happened,
happening that was the smoke-screen for the
stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA
comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that
morning. Now, weve learned that five, possibly six,
were confirmed. Five of these one drill with the exact
same thing happening that actually happened, at the
exact same time in the morning. Thats why NORAD stood
down with 24 different blips on the screen. Youve said
this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you cant
get too much into detail but can you tell us how you
learned of this?
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the
Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago
around the time that I worked for Dole. Im very
familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at
Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that
work in NORAD as well as the Air Force have stated
this, off the record, but the point is, yes, this was
not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at
least two months before September 11th. Everything was
planned, the exact location
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a
drill. Thats the only explanation for why he appeared
nonchalant
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air
traffic controllers going, Is this part of the
exercise? Is this a drill?
SH: Yes.
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it
was, quote, a drill.
SH: Thats right. Thats exactly what I said long before
it became public. Ive known about this since earlier
in March of 03, as I stated before. This was all
planned. This was a government ordered operation. Bush
personally signed the order. He personally authorized
the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder.
And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a
federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate
civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even
a chief judge in this court tried to harass and
threaten me personally for representing legitimate
plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying
under oath about Paula Jones and now look whats
happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me
in Duke Law School in the early 70s and its
interesting that he got away with trying to get
Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse criminal
sitting in the oval office today somebody guilty of
mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a
plan to fly planes into buildings said it all over
television Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And
then we find out they were running all these drills
that morning. Even if they werent involved, that
proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a
plan.
SH: Well, Im trying to take their depositions Ive been
trying to take their depositions for months. Theyve
been trying to object to it. They will have to admit
they were either lying then or now. Its clearly
perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers;
thats what they are. These are the people that we have
running this government and, of course, they knew
about it. How are they going to claim now that they
didnt know about these drills? Their idea is that
nobody knew anything. Its the old know nothing
mentality. And how anybody considers this believable
is beyond me.
AJ: Alright, now people ask how could a huge
organization, how could the AWACs, how could the
military let this happen; whereas before, if your
Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would
launch F-16s on you. Its real simple. Its what Stanley
Hilton said here a year and a half ago. Its what came
out in the news after that. The military, good people,
were told this was all a drill. And it was not a
drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control
of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered
the military to quote do something. Our inside sources
from Hilton and others say it was a stand down and
they admit they will not release that under national
security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, theyre going to
release it in the court case because if you demand it
under subpoena powers and they must release it. And
part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S.
because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we
accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a
fraudulent claim to Congress. And under the statutes
of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this
information. Thats why they are trying to threaten me,
harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit
blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try
and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing
these criminals and their acts of treason and mass
murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you
are not planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks
that?
SH: (laughs) Im not planning suicide. Ive got family
and Im not planning that but I dont like the threats
Im under but I can tell you this, its taking a toll
emotionally on me and my staff. And particularly, when
you get a threat from the chief judge of your own
court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a
year of being under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more evidence that Ive been
adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious
to me that this was now without any doubt a government
operation and that it amounts to the biggest act of
treason and mass murder in American history. I mean
George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot.
He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington.
I mean thats what we have a criminal and a traitor
sitting in the White House pretending hes a patriot,
wrapping himself in the flag. And its pretty
disgusting because the other side of the so-called
opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing
because theyre afraid to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. Well be right back.
BREAK
AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or
16 minutes. Then hes got to go into court. Bob Doles
former chief of staff, political scientist, lawyer,
represents 400 plus plaintiffs most of them victims of
9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I
was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at
ground zero I had family, I worked in the buildings,
my sons a Navy Seal he called the night before and
said dont go to work. You know, all of this, and then
now they never had any idea and it turns out they had
all these drills and one drill of hijacked jets flying
into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in
the morning. That morning come on people! And Stanley
Hilton brought all this out on this show before it was
in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him
during the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles,
the threatening of his staff, the judge threatening
him. Stanley, lets get specifically into the documents
that you have now got that they have now been robbing
you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into
that for us ordering 9/11?
SH: National Security Council classified documents
which [garbled] and its was part of a series of
documents that were involved with the drill documents.
This was all planned they had it on videotape. These
planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated
previously a year and a half ago, theres a system
called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose
of the plane and it enables the ground control, the
military ground control, to disable the pilots control
of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly
into those towers. Thats what happened. Its also a
technology used on whats called the Global Hawk, which
is an aircraft drone a remote-controlled aircraft. And
they were doing it. We are talking about National
Security Council classified documents that clearly
indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order
this to go and this is no drill. These drills that
were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this
was a government operation. You wonder why these
people are trying to threaten people and trying to
intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess
if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in
conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi
Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions
more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess youve
got something to worry about and you want to threaten
people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean lets look at this. Not only are there dress
rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good
military stands down and doesnt know whats happening.
But its now coming out, even in mainstream news, that
yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these
drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote
control this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD
was [ ] old jets and using them for target practice.
Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney
Australia. So since thats going on, everybody knows
that. And its the same MO. Just like the first World
Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded men
who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque
above a pizza pallor. And they set them up as the
patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the
drivers. This informant goes, Youre not going to bomb
the building? They go Yeah, were letting it go
forward. He tapes them to protect themselves. The two
retarded gentlemen, thank God, didnt park it up
against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do,
so it didnt bring down the tower because you have to
be right up against the column. That doesnt happen.
Yet, its the same thing with 9/11. Youve got these CIA
agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military
bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station mainstream media,
out creating their legends for this background. Theyre
on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve
gas kills everybody on board the plane nerve gas
packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings. From
your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH: Its one of the things that we are looking into
that nerve gas or something else disabled people. Its
possible. I cant say for sure to be honest with you
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and
they were on board and the planes were remote
controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the
events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those
cutters, it was a plant. It was like a classic decoy.
Ive got some military background. And its called
decoy. Its a decoy operation. You make the people
focus on the decoy to avoid looking at the real
criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called
nineteen hijackers and saying, Oh, it must have been
these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue sitting in the oval office.
Thats the guilty person. Thats the one who authorized
it. There is only one man who could have authorized
this operation and thats Bush. And anyone at NORAD
will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD
in the war control room, there is only one man who has
the power to do this kind of thing and thats Bush.
Even though many believe hes a puppet. And I think in
many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [
] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact
is Bush personally ordered and hes guilty and liable
and hes going to be re-elected apparently because the
medias asleep and [garbled] for Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military
industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining
the official government fantasy that this was a little
lone Arab. These Arabs couldnt even steer that plane
down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.
BREAK
AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents,
when you talk to these military men and women, whats
their attitude? Theyve got to be pretty freaked out to
have the big picture and know what actually happened
on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know its like clouds just before a
thunderstorm in the sense that they are sort of
pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at the
criminal politicians who have perverted and misused
the government to murder its own citizens and pursue
these dubious political ends. And many of them, in
increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk
under subpoena but only under subpoena because the
official party line of the government is shut up and
dont talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they
are very outraged that part of the government has done
this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you
have to go back to Stalin to see something not even
Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look at
Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his
own dubious gains. Also weve got we have a Stalinist
mentality in this country. And, if these people pose
as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, its
disgusting.
I wanted also to point out that the Japanese
television network, Asahi, is going to be airing a
special on primetime tomorrow, on September 11th. They
interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks ago.
Ill be on that. I wish of course, the America media
dont care so they are not going to care. But in Japan,
people are very serious in interviewing me and others.
And we have a website now, called deprogram.info, if
more people are interested: www.deprogram.info.
But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if
anything happens to me - and I dont know why because
Im being threatened here now. And it seems you cant
bring a case in this country anymore against criminals
in power without being threatened. And this is how
they operate. The stakes are pretty high when youve
got a world historical level of treason and fraud by
this government against its own people. I guess this
is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order
crowd, definitely intend to carry out more terror
attacks. I know they would have carried out more
attacks if we wouldnt have done what weve been up to,
if you wouldnt have been out there boldly speaking out
and many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall
has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people
like yourself and many others who are speaking out and
telling the truth. But do you think that they may
carry out what theyve been hyping a suitcase nuke
attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen all
of this? I know its a catch 22, youve got to expose
the murderers. Weve got to get the word out on this
but some government people that Ive talk to say, Yeah,
but if you do that, they are going to go even more
hard core and must totally try to take over. But I say
regardless, they are already doing that. So what do
you say to that?
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have
contingency plans. I think they are laying low now
because there are an increasing number of people, like
myself, who are openly challenging them and accusing
them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done
it again if we had not spoken up. I think theyre
planning, what they would like to do is silence any
dissenters. Thats why we are trying to get the Patriot
Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.
AJ: Lets talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot
is a scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when
his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then
it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those
guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively
jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when youve
got a Zogby poll, who is highly respected, half of New
Yorkers believe that the government was involved. When
you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that
the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as
high as 76% in polls believe the government was
involved. European polls, two-thirds show the same
thing. We have German defense ministers and technology
ministers and another member of their government now,
three of them going public, known conservatives, and
progressives. You have an environment minister,
Michael Meacher, saying that if they didnt do it, they
sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody
who is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their
official story is impossible. Then you investigate and
they are involved in it. Comments to this massive
awakening and whats happening.
SH: Well, I think thats why they want the Patriot Act
to suppress political dissent. They have to, theyre
anticipating, they are not dumb individuals. I know
these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal
individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated
political dissent. And thats why, like the Nazis,
their forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis
and the Stalinists, theyre all for political
repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has
done this they suppress their own people: Nazi
Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, thats why we
have the Patriot Act. So its hand in hand. They had it
planned to go right up to September 11th, this was all
part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists
attacks with a political suppression mechanism in the
law. And thats why they want Patriot I and Patriot II
and their plans are to continue launching more
terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The
goal is to make this a one party dictatorship in this
country, to pursue their dubious ends with their blood
brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And also,
historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany
and the Communist Russian. Thats the goal
AJ: Youve got to go in just a minute or two. But I
wanted to also tell you about New York. Sound cannons
that are used in Iraq, theyre against us. Men in black
ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being
arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in
wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with
barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to
have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police
screaming at you. It had nothing to do with terrorism.
They are openly setting the precedent for martial law.
SH: Well, thats right, the word terrorist is now being
overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also,
you know, its like the word communist was used for
anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody
can be called a terrorist by Bushs definition. But the
irony is that the number one terrorist in the world is
living at the White House at the oval office today.
Thats the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I think he
deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley
book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of
world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is
the experience that I had. Watching television,
watching the killers, watching those that are guilty,
stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.
Its like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own
trial. I mean it is just painful to know who these
people are. To see them putting America is a shredder.
Now we are going to have forced psychological testing
of every American, forced drugging, you know
Pan-American unions, I mean its just all happening,
its in our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, its very disturbing and as one who has
studied the theory and concept of dictatorships, I
personally interviewed Albert Speer, who was Hitlers
armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
Munich. And Ive studied the psychology and history of
totalitarianism and there is no question that its very
frightening. And it has, today, with high technology,
albeit for the first time in history, the chance of
having a world empire dominated by corrupt,
technologically oriented government - an elite
government. And theyve got now what people like
Napoleon and Hitler didnt have, which is the
technological means to dominate not only their own
country but others the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to
show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century]
said we need helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how
Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to
show their own plans. And to force people to face this
horror. What are they going to do in a year or two
when 80% of us, not half of us, know the truth?
SH: Well, thats why they want repression and, then
again, the ancient old diversion, launch another
terrorist attack to get people to pitch it away. I
mean who knows what theyll do next. I mean their
capacity for ingenious creation of these events is
sort of untraveled. I mean there is no limit. My guess
is they are going to try another stunt maybe a stunt
just before the election to justify getting Bush
reelected. Although it seems like he is running
against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But,
my guess is theyll try some other tactic to get
peoples attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too
much attention. What you really want is for the public
to just lose interest because the public - and its
like remember the Alamo, you know, people dont forget
things like that. To me its like the Alamo, remember
9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous
act of treason. Thats what it is. Its not
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I dont think they
anticipated this much resistance, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as
incompetent as they are corrupt and guilty. That means
their incompetence is exceeded only by their
corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough
people are going to get outraged enough, these people
in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and our
military, and eventually we can get people under
subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being
nave and not recognizing evil. This is what they got
with Hitler and others. People couldnt recognize evil
so they continued to repeat succumbing to it. We are
recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives,
our treasure, our future on the line for freedom
because we cannot let these blood-thirsty control
freak terrorists capture us and use us and turn us
into the empire and have a draft and use us as their
slaves to invade the planet. And thats their PNAC
plan. Stanley Hilton, I know youve got to get to
court. God bless you. I want to thank you for being
here with us today. Can we get you back on next week?
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought
to just think about the consequence of having someone
like Bush in the White House and the danger for the
future that these sort of individuals pose. This is
not just a historical event of the past. This is part
of the plan and the camera is still rolling. They have
an agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous.
They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear and
dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person not
only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have
captured the government. They have not captured the
peoples minds and they are counting on us not facing
up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot
Act and threats and chief judges and FBI agents
threatening people who are exposing them. Thats what
they are counting on.
AJ: But youre not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, Im not
AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God
bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.
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Leo Imanov
Abdu-lLah
AllahsSlave
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