Apa hubungan Nyai Loro kidul dengan Amerika. Hanya orang yang tak mengeal Indonesia bisa bicara demikian!
> > Fr�n: RG Nur Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Datum: 2004/11/03 Wed AM 12:06:53 CET > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > �mne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ? > > > > Nyai Roro Kidul itu apa pernah menurunkan wahyu? > Tapi Amerika sendiri lebih suka mem-veto program-program PBB itu kan.. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Itu cerita dulu, seperti orang Jawa dulu percaya pada Nyai Luru Kidul. Apakah tidak > sebaiknya dianggap saja sebagai cerita dari pada sebagai pedoman hidup. > > Sekarang untuk mengatur kerukunan hidup manusia ada itu deklarasi PBB tentang HAM > dimana dinyatan dalam salah satu paragrafnya : orang tidak boleh dibedakan > berbasiskan agama, kelamin, warna kulit, keturuan etc. > > Deklarasi tsb telah menjadi dasar hukum nasional dan internasional demi menjamin > kehidupan bersama. Celakanya ada pihak-pihak tertentu yang karena kepentingan mereka > berusaha mengabaikan pentingnya faedah konsesus tsb dalam kehidupan bersama manusia > beradab. > > > > > Fr�n: dicky riyadi > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 08:14:07 CET > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > �mne: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ? > > > > > > > > lha bahkan iblis pun ciptaan Allah, tetapi kita dilarang menyembah iblis, memuja, > > dan mengikuti ajaran iblis. > > > > gay adalah terlarang sejak jaman Nabi Luth A.S., .....jadi setiap Nabi yg diutus > > Allah melarang hubungan sejenis...apa pun alasannya.. > > > > kalo sekedar ciptaan Allah, lha penjahat pun juga ciptaan Allah... tetapi setiap > > aktivitas kejahatan harus dilawan... > > > > demikian menjadi ujian bagi manusia yg bertakwa.... > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Apakah bukan mahluk ciptaan Alloh? > > > > > > > > Fr�n: partogi samosir > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 01:44:26 CET > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > �mne: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ? > > > > > > > > > dear all, > > > Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan sesama jenis dan melantik > > > seorang Gay menjadi pendeta) semakin menyadarkan kita bahwa > > > Amerika bukan negara Kristen. > > > Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan Kekristenan, tapi untuk > > > kepentingan Amerika sendiri. > > > togi > > > > > > dicky riyadi wrote: > > > > > > Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion > > > > > > Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET > > > Top Stories - Reuters > > > By Dino Mahtani > > > LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority of the world's > > > Anglicans said on Friday North American sections that embrace homosexuality > > > should be seen as following a different religion. > > > > > > The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark conference in Nigeria to > > > determine their future marked a growing separation between conservatives and > > > liberals in the 70-million strong church. > > > > > > The bishops told their North American counterparts to repent and ask for > > > forgiveness for approving same-sex marriages and consecrating Gene Robinson, a > > > divorced homosexual and father of two, as a bishop. > > > > > > "Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen to 'walk alone' and > > > follow another religion," said the statement issued by the senior clerics from > > > across the continent. > > > > > > A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy urged North American > > > congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the ordination of gay clergy, but > > > stepped back from an outright condemnation of gays in a bid to reconcile the > > > divisions. > > > > > > But African church leaders said it did not go far enough and accused the North > > > American communions of subverting the faith and imposing a false doctrine. > > > > > > African bishops want their continent to become the new heartland of Anglicanism > > > and Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola, Africa's top cleric, has said the Church of > > > Nigeria aims to set up branches in the United States. > > > > > > Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to take a firm stance on > > > homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom are traditionalists who cannot > > > stomach the idea of gay bishops -- will desert it for evangelical churches or > > > Islam. > > > > > > Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- a born-again Christian > > > -- backed African bishops in rejecting homosexuality and called gay tendencies > > > "unbiblical, unnatural and definitely un-African." > > > > > > The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not be swayed in their > > > rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church funds from the liberal West, > > > despite Africa receiving 70 percent of its funds mainly from America. > > > > > > But church leaders say the split between African bishops and their American > > > counterparts is not so much a geographical division as a split between the > > > liberal and conservative wings of the church. > > > > > > Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church that ordained Robinson > > > have called his appointment "schismatic." 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