Bagaimana bisa dikatagorikan penyakit sosial bisakah diterangkan lebih diperinci lebih 
luas? Jangan pakai argumen agama sebaiknya ilmu pengetahuan diluar bidang agama supaya 
bisa menambah kecerdasan.


> 
> Fr�n: Iwan Wibawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Datum: 2004/11/03 Wed AM 09:49:02 CET
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> �mne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> 
> 
> homo itu penyakit sosial, ada yang tersinggung ?, ayam saja yang gak punya otak, gak 
> mau sama sejenis, koq kita yang diberi akal pikiran malah nyeleneh...
> weleh..weleh udah dikasih ALLAH lubang yang maha nikmat didepan, kepingin dari 
> belakang...menunjukan manusia memang tidak pernah bersyukur !!!
>  
> salam
> IWAN
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mahluk manusia adalah ciptaan Alloh!
> 
> > 
> > Fr�n: RG Nur Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Datum: 2004/11/02 Tue PM 11:03:21 CET
> > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > �mne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > apa homo itu disebabkan karena gen? kan tidak ada buktinya.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Homo itu sudah sejak zaman purba, kiranya Tuhan imembuat kesalahan karena 
> > menciptakan mahluk yang kemudian diharamkan sendiri. Apakah ini bukan aneh bin 
> > ajaib.
> > 
> > Apakah Nyonya Nyai Loro Kidul itu jin atau iblis, saya tak tahu. tapi banyak orang 
> > pergi sembah dan malah Pak Harto pergi bertapa ke tempat yang katanya adalah 
> > tempat Nyai Loro Kidul. Jangan lupa pak Harto itu Haji dengan nama muka seperti 
> > Nabi. Rupaya pertapaannya diberkati oleh Nyonya Nyai Loro Kidul, maka bisa kaya 
> > raya bila dibandingkan dengan orang kampung yang tak bertapa, karena harus macul 
> > kebun dan menuai padi.
> > 
> > Kapan-kapan kalau saya ke Jawa lagi saya mau bertapa 40 hari, semoga berkatnya 
> > dilimpahkan pada saya seperti yang diberikan kepada Pak Harto.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Fr�n: dicky riyadi 
> > > Datum: 2004/11/02 Tue PM 02:30:08 CET
> > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > �mne: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Iblis itu bukan cerita dulu, Mas Ambon manise.....iblis itu tetap ada sampai 
> > > sekarang... makanya banyak kejahatan...
> > > 
> > > Nyonya luru kidul alias Loro Kidul itu juga keluarga jin, kalo mau tengok 
> > > silakan datang ke parang tritis....
> > > 
> > > Homoseksual itu final dalam agama, yakni: haram...
> > > 
> > > ya pelakunya harus dihukum, atau diminta bertobat dan diterapi agar kembali 
> > > normal..
> > > 
> > > tapi karena orang suka mengada-ada, jadinya homoseksual dianggap sbg hal yg 
> > > lumrah.... sama dg seks bebas pun dianggap lumrah.... padahal ya tetap haram dan 
> > > harus dihukum..
> > > 
> > > karena hukuman di sini tdk setimpal, ya hukumannya dirapel di neraka kelak....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Itu cerita dulu, seperti orang Jawa dulu percaya pada Nyai Luru Kidul. Apakah 
> > > tidak sebaiknya dianggap saja sebagai cerita dari pada sebagai pedoman hidup. 
> > > 
> > > Sekarang untuk mengatur kerukunan hidup manusia ada itu deklarasi PBB tentang 
> > > HAM dimana dinyatan dalam salah satu paragrafnya : orang tidak boleh dibedakan 
> > > berbasiskan agama, kelamin, warna kulit, keturuan etc.
> > > 
> > > Deklarasi tsb telah menjadi dasar hukum nasional dan internasional demi menjamin 
> > > kehidupan bersama. Celakanya ada pihak-pihak tertentu yang karena kepentingan 
> > > mereka berusaha mengabaikan pentingnya faedah konsesus tsb dalam kehidupan 
> > > bersama manusia beradab.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Fr�n: dicky riyadi 
> > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 08:14:07 CET
> > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > �mne: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > lha bahkan iblis pun ciptaan Allah, tetapi kita dilarang menyembah iblis, 
> > > > memuja, dan mengikuti ajaran iblis.
> > > > 
> > > > gay adalah terlarang sejak jaman Nabi Luth A.S., .....jadi setiap Nabi yg 
> > > > diutus Allah melarang hubungan sejenis...apa pun alasannya..
> > > > 
> > > > kalo sekedar ciptaan Allah, lha penjahat pun juga ciptaan Allah... tetapi 
> > > > setiap aktivitas kejahatan harus dilawan...
> > > > 
> > > > demikian menjadi ujian bagi manusia yg bertakwa....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Apakah bukan mahluk ciptaan Alloh?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Fr�n: partogi samosir 
> > > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 01:44:26 CET
> > > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > �mne: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > dear all,
> > > > > Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan sesama jenis dan 
> > > > > melantik seorang Gay menjadi pendeta) semakin menyadarkan kita bahwa 
> > > > > Amerika bukan negara Kristen. 
> > > > > Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan Kekristenan, tapi 
> > > > > untuk kepentingan Amerika sendiri.
> > > > > togi
> > > > > 
> > > > > dicky riyadi wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion
> > > > > 
> > > > > Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET
> > > > > Top Stories - Reuters
> > > > > By Dino Mahtani 
> > > > > LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority of the world's 
> > > > > Anglicans said on Friday North American sections that embrace homosexuality 
> > > > > should be seen as following a different religion. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark conference in Nigeria to 
> > > > > determine their future marked a growing separation between conservatives and 
> > > > > liberals in the 70-million strong church. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The bishops told their North American counterparts to repent and ask for 
> > > > > forgiveness for approving same-sex marriages and consecrating Gene Robinson, 
> > > > > a divorced homosexual and father of two, as a bishop. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen to 'walk alone' and 
> > > > > follow another religion," said the statement issued by the senior clerics 
> > > > > from across the continent. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy urged North American 
> > > > > congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the ordination of gay clergy, 
> > > > > but stepped back from an outright condemnation of gays in a bid to reconcile 
> > > > > the divisions. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But African church leaders said it did not go far enough and accused the 
> > > > > North American communions of subverting the faith and imposing a false 
> > > > > doctrine. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > African bishops want their continent to become the new heartland of 
> > > > > Anglicanism and Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola, Africa's top cleric, has 
> > > > > said the Church of Nigeria aims to set up branches in the United States. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to take a firm stance on 
> > > > > homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom are traditionalists who 
> > > > > cannot stomach the idea of gay bishops -- will desert it for evangelical 
> > > > > churches or Islam. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- a born-again 
> > > > > Christian -- backed African bishops in rejecting homosexuality and called 
> > > > > gay tendencies "unbiblical, unnatural and definitely un-African." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not be swayed in their 
> > > > > rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church funds from the liberal 
> > > > > West, despite Africa receiving 70 percent of its funds mainly from America. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But church leaders say the split between African bishops and their American 
> > > > > counterparts is not so much a geographical division as a split between the 
> > > > > liberal and conservative wings of the church. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church that ordained 
> > > > > Robinson have called his appointment "schismatic." Many of the more liberal 
> > > > > bishops in Africa, particularly from South Africa, have taken a softer 
> > > > > approach to gays and have snubbed the conference in Nigeria. 
> > > > > 
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