Wah gak tahu lahh lha wong aku gak homo..tapi kabare..yang homo itu
mau gak mau ya gitu...udah dari lahir lain...gimana ya?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], RG Nur Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Apa betul Homoseksual itu orientasi seksual yang asas?
> kalau tidak buat apa dilindungi, kalau bisa diberantas.
> rm_danardono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mas, pakde Riadi ini lebih suka percaya pada jin2 dan sejenisnya.
> Iblis, tuyul, shaitan, gendruwo....
>
> Memang kita yang sudah bernalar ini harus lebih berorientasi pada
> upaya2 kemanusiaan, serta menggelar hak azazi manusia dari semua
> manusia...
>
> Mungkin ada baiknya baca lagi mengenai sejarah Magna Charta...
>
> Salam
>
> RM D Hadinoto
>
>
>
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
> > Itu cerita dulu, seperti orang Jawa dulu percaya pada Nyai Luru
> Kidul. Apakah tidak sebaiknya dianggap saja sebagai cerita dari
pada
> sebagai pedoman hidup.
> >
> > Sekarang untuk mengatur kerukunan hidup manusia ada itu deklarasi
> PBB tentang HAM dimana dinyatan dalam salah satu paragrafnya :
orang
> tidak boleh dibedakan berbasiskan agama, kelamin, warna kulit,
> keturuan etc.
> >
> > Deklarasi tsb telah menjadi dasar hukum nasional dan
internasional
> demi menjamin kehidupan bersama. Celakanya ada pihak-pihak tertentu
> yang karena kepentingan mereka berusaha mengabaikan pentingnya
faedah
> konsesus tsb dalam kehidupan bersama manusia beradab.
> >
> > >
> > > Fr�n: dicky riyadi
> > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 08:14:07 CET
> > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > �mne: Re: Sv: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > lha bahkan iblis pun ciptaan Allah, tetapi kita dilarang
> menyembah iblis, memuja, dan mengikuti ajaran iblis.
> > >
> > > gay adalah terlarang sejak jaman Nabi Luth A.S., .....jadi
setiap
> Nabi yg diutus Allah melarang hubungan sejenis...apa pun alasannya..
> > >
> > > kalo sekedar ciptaan Allah, lha penjahat pun juga ciptaan
> Allah... tetapi setiap aktivitas kejahatan harus dilawan...
> > >
> > > demikian menjadi ujian bagi manusia yg bertakwa....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Apakah bukan mahluk ciptaan Alloh?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Fr�n: partogi samosir
> > > > Datum: 2004/11/01 Mon PM 01:44:26 CET
> > > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > �mne: [ppiindia] Amerika = Negara Krsiten ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > dear all,
> > > > Sikap gereja di Amerika (yang mengesahkan pernikahan sesama
> jenis dan melantik seorang Gay menjadi pendeta) semakin menyadarkan
> kita bahwa
> > > > Amerika bukan negara Kristen.
> > > > Semua aksi dan policy Amerika bukan untuk kepentingan
> Kekristenan, tapi untuk kepentingan Amerika sendiri.
> > > > togi
> > > >
> > > > dicky riyadi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Africans: Pro-Gay U.S. Church Follows New Religion
> > > >
> > > > Fri Oct 29,11:22 AM ET
> > > > Top Stories - Reuters
> > > > By Dino Mahtani
> > > > LAGOS (Reuters) - African bishops representing a majority of
> the world's Anglicans said on Friday North American sections that
> embrace homosexuality should be seen as following a different
> religion.
> > > >
> > > > The statement by top Anglican clerics at a landmark
conference
> in Nigeria to determine their future marked a growing separation
> between conservatives and liberals in the 70-million strong church.
> > > >
> > > > The bishops told their North American counterparts to repent
> and ask for forgiveness for approving same-sex marriages and
> consecrating Gene Robinson, a divorced homosexual and father of
two,
> as a bishop.
> > > >
> > > > "Failure to do so would indicate that they have chosen
to 'walk
> alone' and follow another religion," said the statement issued by
the
> senior clerics from across the continent.
> > > >
> > > > A report earlier this month by senior Anglican clergy urged
> North American congregations to ban same-sex marriages and the
> ordination of gay clergy, but stepped back from an outright
> condemnation of gays in a bid to reconcile the divisions.
> > > >
> > > > But African church leaders said it did not go far enough and
> accused the North American communions of subverting the faith and
> imposing a false doctrine.
> > > >
> > > > African bishops want their continent to become the new
> heartland of Anglicanism and Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola,
Africa's
> top cleric, has said the Church of Nigeria aims to set up branches
in
> the United States.
> > > >
> > > > Church leaders in Africa fear if Anglicanism fails to take a
> firm stance on homosexuality, its parishioners -- many of whom are
> traditionalists who cannot stomach the idea of gay bishops -- will
> desert it for evangelical churches or Islam.
> > > >
> > > > Earlier this week Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo -- a
> born-again Christian -- backed African bishops in rejecting
> homosexuality and called gay tendencies "unbiblical, unnatural and
> definitely un-African."
> > > >
> > > > The bishops gathered in Nigeria have said they would not be
> swayed in their rejection of ordaining gays by the lure of church
> funds from the liberal West, despite Africa receiving 70 percent of
> its funds mainly from America.
> > > >
> > > > But church leaders say the split between African bishops and
> their American counterparts is not so much a geographical division
as
> a split between the liberal and conservative wings of the church.
> > > >
> > > > Already, conservatives in the same U.S. Episcopal Church that
> ordained Robinson have called his appointment "schismatic." Many of
> the more liberal bishops in Africa, particularly from South Africa,
> have taken a softer approach to gays and have snubbed the
conference
> in Nigeria.
> > > >
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