gimana yah lieur juga setelah tahu soal poli polian...ada gak yah 
poligami dilakukan bukan atas hawa nafsu ?? aahhhhhhhh pusing 

mba Carla..Mba Lina...ditutup deh poly-nya..mending kita buat grup 
voli aja..pas kan jumlahnya: C-L-Lst-Id-Rl-ibu Fzh


--- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, "Lina Dahlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Bila polygami itu menyebabkan rusaknya sebuah perkawinan, itu 
> namanya polygaminya gak berhasil...atau bahkan bukan poligamy 
> namanya...he...he...
> 
> --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, Carla Annamarie 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > referrred to ur statement below regarding polygami..it clearly and
> > resolutely stated in Q'uran that men shall be allowed to marry 
> more than
> > one women, but u definitely know that in reality polygami may or 
> shall
> > destroy marriage.., i think it's a dead-end..,
> > as i could say marriage is for once..and it's until death do 
> apart...and
> > it's stipulated in the heart of every men that had made a  vow 
> before
> > God..that he shall  pledge his love and life for only one 
> women....that vow
> > is his honor...
> > 
> > i rest my case...
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ..quite agree with the view that for some reasons, polygamy may 
> destroy
> > marriage...i didnt say anything abt it...but anyhow it has been 
> clearly
> > stipulated, both in holy book qur'an or hadist, that is a legal
> > practise...can't we abolish or refute it?.  we should respect 
> religious
> > stipulations, shoudn't we? ....if men are supposed to be 
civilised 
> in our
> > sexual needs (wife), why we could not be committed to our 
> religion?.  which
> > is the holy guidance, wives or religion?
> > 
> > FB
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Carla Annamarie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > is it ur best defence or perhaps a plea..:))..
> > it's a undeniable fact that when it comes to sex matters..men is 
> the
> > predator.., im not talking bias.., for example u cant denied a 
> men's
> > biological system here..,rite? when u re talking abt 
> sex..especially..
> > anyway, i agree when it takes two ppl to conduct sex..bcs it need 
> two to
> > tango..:))..but i dont blame men for having such a overcapacity or
> > consumptive desire.., but after married men should  be more 
> civilised
> > concerning sexual needs bcs their needs is fulfilled by their 
> wifes..so
> > having affairs or polygamy is out of question..., if men re still
> > single..he doesnt have obligation except to God and himself abt 
> what he
> > wants to do with his body and his life..but when men got married 
> he has
> > responsibility to his wife for every thing he does..bcs it's 
> married all
> > abt..,rite?
> > btw...i think gay or lesbians issue has nothing gonna do with the 
> subject
> > of discussion here..brought it up seems bias..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                       farid bajber
> > 
> >                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:
> > ppiindia@yahoogroups.com
> >                       m>                       cc:
> > 
> >                       Sent by:                 Subject:  Re: 
> [ppiindia] Re:
> > Mengharamkan Poligami,
> >                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]         Melindungi 
> Perzinahan
> > 
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> > 
> >                       05/04/2005 05:19
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> >                       PM
> > 
> >                       Please respond to
> > 
> >                       ppiindia
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Madame Annamarie, (...panjang bener nich nama yach?)
> > 
> > that's not true, mam....klo u r sttment seperti itu, u r not 
fair, 
> too
> > bias. in fact, female desire is bigger than that is of male. u 
> can't blame
> > of prostitution on male only. no way mam!! a study has revealed 
> that in
> > some western countries that the lesbians outnumber homos. so, who 
> are
> > desparately seeking for fulfilment of their desire then?.
> > 
> > FB
> > 
> > Carla Annamarie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > actually pak Samudjo gak binun..cuman gak mo trima kenyataanya aja
> > kali..:))..joking neh:))..
> > btw "desire" is humane..actually is a blessing.., ppl without 
> desire is
> > really pathetic..no passions means no life at all...
> > klo udah married kan mestinya udah punya "wadah" for communicating
> > ,expressing, conducting, sharing "desire"..., pernikahan just for 
> two
> > ppl..kalo udah more than two means adultery..., so klo org 
> polygamy ..means
> > overcapacity..or consumptive neh..:))..
> > but the answer is simply.." men's cant live without sex.." or 
> perhaps kalo
> > lebih rinci lagi men's is sex's slave or men's life depends on 
> it..for
> > example every day..how many times men's visualize or imagine the 
> images of
> > sex..? i think more than hundreds..even some ppl thousands of 
> times..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                       "Samudjo"
> > 
> >                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:
> > <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com>
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> > 
> >                       Sent by:                 Subject:  Re: 
> [ppiindia] Re:
> > Mengharamkan Poligami,
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> Perzinahan
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> >                       05/04/2005 03:55
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> >                       PM
> > 
> >                       Please respond to
> > 
> >                       ppiindia
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Saya sendiri binun gimana yah ?
> > Tertulisnya seperti itu sih,
> > samudjo
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carla Annamarie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <ppiindia@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Mengharamkan Poligami, Melindungi 
> Perzinahan
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Memang sih timbulnya arus sekuler khan karena mereka muak
> > > dengan perilaku munafik kaum santri
> > > Betul mbak Carla, itu namanya cheating
> > > yang dilarang kan "mendekati zina"
> > > Jadi motifnya tidak boleh karena "desire"
> > >
> > > > pak samudjo..flirting is cheating..cheating is the beginning 
of
> > > adultery.., klo diliat dari kronologis, mekanisme, dan 
> proses..semua itu
> > > adalah satu kesatuan..., gak mungkin orang selingkuh/polygamy 
> gak da
> > motif
> > > "desire'..come on..:))..re u kidding me..:))..i think men knows
> > > better..:))..
> > >
> > >
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