Nanti sampeyan dituduh tidak nasionalis karena mengimpor neokolonialis lho... DG
On 7/21/05, Nugroho Dewanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > pinter dan berani banget nih walikota.... bisa gak kita > sewa dia buat gantiin sutiyoso di jakarta....? > > salam, > > > > At 08:34 AM 7/20/05 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mayor blames Middle East policy > > > > > >Decades of British and American intervention in the oil-rich Middle East > >motivated the London bombers, Ken Livingstone has suggested. > >The London mayor told BBC News he had no sympathy with the bombers and he > >opposed all violence. > >But he argued that the attacks would not have happened had Western powers > >left Arab nations free to decide their own affairs after World War I. > >Instead, they had often supported unsavoury governments in the region. > > > > > >A lot of young people see the double standards > >Ken Livingstone > >London Mayor > > > >Mr Livingstone was asked on BBC Radio 4's Today programme what he thought > >had motivated the bombers. > >He replied: "I think you've just had 80 years of western intervention into > >predominantly Arab lands because of the western need for oil. > >"We've propped up unsavoury governments, we've overthrown ones we didn't > >consider sympathetic. > >"And I think the particular problem we have at the moment is that in the > >1980s... the Americans recruited and trained Osama Bin Laden, taught him > >how to kill, to make bombs, and set him off to kill the Russians and drive > >them out of Afghanistan. > >"They didn't give any thought to the fact that once he'd done that he > >might turn on his creators." > >No justice? > >Mr Livingstone said Western governments had been so terrified of losing > >their fuel supplies that they had kept intervening in the Middle East. > >He argued: "If at the end of the First World War we had done what we > >promised the Arabs, which was to let them be free and have their own > >governments, and kept out of Arab affairs, and just bought their oil, > >rather than feeling we had to control the flow of oil, I suspect this > >wouldn't have arisen." > > > > > >British voters don't vote in elections on foreign policy, and suicide > >bombers won't change this > >Andrew, Cirencester, UK > > > > > >He attacked double standards by Western nations, such as the initial > >welcome given when Saddam Hussein came to power in Iraq. > >There was also the "running sore" of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. > >"A lot of young people see the double standards, they see what happens in > >Guantanamo Bay, and they just think that there isn't a just foreign > >policy," said Mr Livingstone. > >Suicide bombers > >Mr Livingstone said he did not just denounce suicide bombers. > >He also denounced "those governments which use indiscriminate slaughter to > >advance their foreign policy, as we have occasionally seen with the > >Israeli government bombing areas from which a terrorist group will have > >come, irrespective of the casualties it inflicts, women, children and men". > >He continued: "Under foreign occupation and denied the right to vote, > >denied the right to run your own affairs, often denied the right to work > >for three generations, I suspect that if it had happened here in England, > >we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves." > >Mr Livingstone also criticised parts of the media for giving too much > >publicity to certain figures who were "totally unrepresentative" of > >British Muslims. > >Tourist impact > >Mr Livingstone later took questions about the bombings from members of the > >London Assembly. > >He said the unity shown by Londoners in the wake of the attacks was a > >commemoration to those who died and showed a determination not to give in > >to terrorism. > >The mayor said most of the Tube would be working normally by the end of > >the week and the Underground should be working as before by the end of the > >month. > >But he warned Tube users they would have to put up with the kind of > >disruption caused by packages left on trains which was seen during past > >IRA bombing campaigns. > >There had been "very, very little" cancellations of existing hotel > >bookings and flights to London, said Mr Livingstone. > >But there had been an immediate drop in new bookings for long-haul flights > >and hotels and a "dramatic reduction" in British people bringing children > >into the capital. > >'Naming and shaming' hotels > >Before this month's attacks, the levels of American tourists visiting > >London were only running at 75% of the numbers seen before the 11 > >September 2001 attacks in the US. > >One way to counter the "turn down" in tourist trade was to attract more > >people from the UK and other parts of Europe, said Mr Livingstone. > >Mr Livingstone said he did not have information about hotels raising > >prices for people trying to stay in London after the attacks. > >But if there was evidence of "profiteering", the Greater London Authority > >would "name and shame" those hotels involved and refuse to do business > >with them in the future, he said. > > > > > >Story from BBC NEWS: > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4698963.stm > > > > *************************************************************************** > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. 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