http://afeministblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-kartini-day-2008.html

On Kartini Day, 21 April 2008, I was invited as one resource person in one 
local television of Semarang. The theme was talking about Kartini, as a woman 
who was popularly known as the ‘triggerer’ of women emancipation movement. The 
other two resource persons were Fitriyah, the leader of KPU (The Commission for 
General Election) of Central Java, and Nuki, one public relation officer of one 
hotel located at the heart of Semarang, Simpang Lima. The hostess was Ayu, one 
employee of the local television.
To tell you the truth, before the program started, I didn’t have any idea what 
questions would be asked to me. When reading the invitation letter, I found the 
main theme of the program was “the application of gender mainstreaming in our 
society”. For that, I equipped myself by reading JURNAL PEREMPUAN number 50 
with the main topic PENGARUSUTAMAAN GENDER (gender mainstreaming). For sure, I 
didn’t want to disappoint my fellow feminist allies.  It didn’t mention about 
Kartini day, women emancipation, etc, that probably (so I thought) was already 
a bit out of date. Now it is the time to apply gender mainstreaming in all 
aspects of our lives! It is time for the REAL ACTION! ‘Women emancipation’ has 
been a quite hot issue in Indonesia for many decades but we still can find many 
unfair policies for women.
However, when the four of us were in the studio, waiting for the time to be 
aired, Ayu told me that she would ask some questions related to feminism; for 
example, how many kinds of feminisms, etc. I am of opinion that kinds of 
feminisms are not important to really improve women’s lives in Indonesia.
After introducing the three special guests to the viewers, Ayu asked Fitriyah 
what she was thinking about Kartini and the relationship between her struggle 
and women’s betterment in life in recent decades. One very important thing was 
mentioned by Fitriyah: “Kartini struggled to improve women’s lives. It is time 
for women to have rights to make decisions, to make choices in their own lives. 
They are not always to listen to what their father or brother or husband asks 
them to do.”
“Making a choice for themselves” is one thing I always underline in my blogs.
When Ayu asked my opinion, I said, “What Kartini struggled for her fellow women 
citizen was to get education. Being educated is very important so that women 
are considered ‘able’. Related to what Ibu Fitriyah said before, I completely 
agree that women must have rights to make choices and decisions for themselves. 
In the past, women were not believed to be able to make their own choices 
probably because they were not equipped with what people needed to have to make 
choices: knowledge and education.. With much bigger chances to pursue as high 
education as possible, it is time for women to ‘enjoy’ their independence to 
make choices and decisions.”
The question for Nuki was a bit different. Ayu related this issue to Nuki’s job 
as a public relation officer in one hotel. “Does working in a hotel (which was 
traditionally stereotyped as having a bad environment for ‘good women’) make 
Nuki feel at ease in her surrounding?” Nuki said even the first disagreement 
she got from her parents. But it happened when the first time she started 
working. After some time, they believed that Nuki could face the environment. 
Besides, she said people would recognize kinds of people from their appearance. 
So far, she never got a serious problem (read  sexual abuse).
The following question for Fitriyah was related to her main job as the chief of 
KPU. “Why, among five pairs of governor and the vice governor, is there only 
one woman? And she is only as the candidate of the vice governor, not as the 
governor?”
Fitriyah related this question to the affirmative action for women to be 
involved as legislative members. Each political party is expected to include 
women as their representatives until 30%. However, in the election for a leader 
of one region, (mayors for cities, regents for regencies, governors for 
provinces, and presidents for the country), there is no regulation to fulfill 
the 30% number. Political parties are free to choose their own candidates 
regardless sex. Therefore, Fitriyah thought that it was a good idea that in the 
next general election, Indonesia will give more chances to women to be chosen 
by political parties to go to the leader election.
The following question for me was not related to the question for Fitriyah. Ayu 
asked me about feminism, whether feminism was triggered by emancipation 
movement. I cited the woman movement in the middle of the nineteenth century 
America as the main real action by women to equalize their position in society. 
The nineteenth century American women struggled to get suffrage that they 
believed would give them equal feeling to their fellow male citizens. This 
meant ‘emancipation’. The term ‘feminism’ itself was coined in the last decade 
of the nineteenth century to refer to this woman movement.
“Well, we know many kinds of feminist movement, such as radical, liberal 
feminist movement, etc, don’t you think that they are really not ‘Indonesian’? 
Ayu went on asking me.
I said that we must admit that feminist movement was ‘born’ in the western 
countries, radical as well as liberal (and some other kinds) feminisms 
represented western women. I agreed if people said that these two feminisms 
were not really the representatives of Indonesian women.
“There are more other kinds of feminisms though that can represent Indonesian 
women. For example, multicultural feminism.” I responded further.
This made Ayu go on with the following question about women who want to ‘enjoy’ 
the equal roles but they also want to be treated ‘special’, such as in the 
workplace. As an example, Ayu mentioned about right for women to be off several 
days from the workplace due to menstruation. Fitriyah wisely said that 
biologically women were different from men. Women who get menstruation every 
month are to be treated differently from men who don’t get menstruation.
I added that the equal treatment to women was not supposed to be related to 
that biological difference. As an example I mentioned the income tax for women 
that generally is bigger than men. A woman—no matter whether she is single or 
married and having kids—is always regarded single. This makes the taxed income 
bigger. A married woman who has one child must pay bigger tax than a married 
man who has one child. (With one note: this man and woman have the same 
position and the same length time to work in the same company.)
I also said if the special treatment for women to get several days off due to 
menstruation made men envy, this was really wrong. Women were created having 
womb and vagina that made them get menstruation monthly. Men were not. How 
could they envy this? Why should they envy this?
My answer in fact invited two viewers to make a phone calls to ask. The first 
question was about the regulation that gives women right to be off from the 
workplace due to menstruation because in her company, there is not such a 
thing. Even pregnant women don’t have enough days off when delivering their 
babies. Unfortunately, I was not equipped by the law and regulation about this 
so I could not give a satisfying answer. However, if there were not such law 
and regulation yet, I proposed it to be made as soon as possible. (Fitriyah 
whispered to me quickly that the law and regulation was still being made.)
The second questioner asked my opinion about a career woman who neglected her 
household chores as well as the husband and children. She even said, “This 
emancipation movement has made women become too independent so that they forgot 
their ‘destiny’ to be born as women.” To answer it, I related to the question 
asked by Ayu about a highly-educated woman who chose to be a housewife.
“As long as the decision to be a housewife is made by the woman herself, it is 
okay. So, it is not a force from the husband who selfishly wants his wife to be 
at home only. However, when a woman chooses to have a career outside the house, 
the husband must support her. And this support is also included to give a hand 
in doing household chores, plus taking care of the children. There must not be 
an accusation for this woman to neglect the husband and the children. There 
must be a compromise between the husband and wife on this.” This was my answer.
Further, Ayu asked Nuki whether her workplace—one three-star-rated hotel—gave 
enough ‘protection’ to women employees there. Nuki answered that her boss was 
very supportive. She mentioned one incident when there was a sexual abuse done 
by one male employee to another female employee; the boss directly laid off the 
male employee so that the atmosphere became conducive again.
This is really interesting to me since mostly I heard or read articles 
somewhere about contradictory things. The way patriarchal society accuses women 
as temptress is still strong, in my opinion. The pornography bill proves this. 
(Check my article on this pornography bill in my blog at 
http://afeministblog.blogspot.com) One example: in many rape cases, the victims 
were even accused as the ones who “tempted” or “encouraged” the rapist to do 
the rape, such as from the way the victims got dressed, or talked or behaved.
Btw, this led Ayu to the following question to me, a question which was very 
immature and sexist, in my opinion. She mentioned about women’s want to be 
considered equal with men but they still want to get special treatment. For 
example when there was an accident in a ship—let’ say a ship is sinking—the 
order to the ship crew was: “Save women and children, first!” why women? If 
they were equal with men, there were not supposed to be such ‘unfair’ treatment 
to men.
“No matter what,” I responded, “when talking about physical power, everybody 
must agree that men are stronger than women. Men are expected to have enough 
power to swim to the seashore. Therefore women—who don’t have such a 
strength—must be saved first, together with children.” Again, I mentioned when 
men envy what women are supposed to get—let’s say several days off at the 
office due to menstruation—this was really illogical. When men—who generally 
have bigger body and power—envy women who get saved first in a sinking ship 
accident, how do you call such men?
Ayu’s another question about which kind of feminist ideology was suitable to be 
applied in Indonesia, I refused to mention one kind of feminist ideology. (Just 
like in one article I wrote some time ago in my blog at 
http://afeministblog.blogspot.com , I refused to include myself as the follower 
which feminist ideology.) Kinds of feminist ideologies are not important. The 
main core to apply the movement to equalize women to men is giving women rights 
to make their own choice and decision in their life.
The last question from Ayu to end the program was what Fitriyah, Nuki, and I 
expected in the future, in the name of the betterment for women’s lives. I 
expected that gender mainstreaming is really applied in all aspects in our 
lives. To do so, we have to make sure that all country decision makers 
understand what gender mainstreaming is, issue policies that support the 
betterment for women—that eventually will also be good for men. Fitriyah 
mentioned the importance of educating children in families about no 
stereotyping of gender roles. (FYI, Fitriyah as the chief of General Election 
Commission is very busy outside the home. Nearing the gubernatorial election in 
Central Java next June 22, she must be bloody busy outside the home.) This will 
create younger generations who do not think, “Father goes to the office, mother 
goes to the market” anymore.
Nuki made me disappointed by saying, “Women must be given as broad opportunity 
as possible to show their capabilities without forgetting their ‘destiny’ as 
women.”
Luckily she said so by the end of the program. I didn’t have time to ‘explain’ 
or ‘lecture’ the misconception of ‘women’s destiny’ as domestic creatures—“the 
angel of the house” this was how women movement activists in the nineteenth 
century America cynically chose the term. I knew exactly this was what Nuki 
thought about “without forgetting their destiny as women”.
P.S.: The article is especially written for
1. Radit, the producer of the program who has invited me. I wrote this article 
several weeks after the occasion (I was so damn lazy to do it soon. LOL..) 
Therefore, I already forgot some things discussed in the program. I didn’t have 
any note on it. I just wrote what I still keep in my mind well till now.
2. Ibu Fitriyah, how proud I am to be together with Ibu in this special 
occasion. I will be happy if in the future Radit will make us meet again in the 
next special occasion. Huehehehe …
3. Nuki, I assume that we need to talk a lot about what is created and 
constructed in our life. You are just still too young and do not get enough 
exposure to be with ‘women activists’ like me.
4. Ayu. In fact I am wondering who made those questions you had in your list? 
From you? Who else was involved in ‘creating’ some questions that made me 
easily see that this particular person didn’t know a lot about feminist 
movement? 
5. The makeup artist. LOL. I mean the one who made me look more ‘eligible’ to 
be shot by camera. Angie said, “Mama looks odd!” hahahaha …
6. The other crew who welcomed me warmly.
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