We have to keep the mailing list open. Though most of us dont give any ideas,some of us are compilng great ideas yet to be posted. Dont be taken by suprise when I post something in the near future!! Kizito Musisi Francis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Prime mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://hogranch.com/mailman/listinfo/prime or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Prime digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Description of Residues (George Woltman) 2. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) 3. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) 4. Re: the time has come... (Coran Fisher) 5. Re: the time has come... (Jason Papadopoulos) 6. Re: The time has come (Greg Edwards) 7. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) 8. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) 9. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) 10. Re: the time has come... (Brian Beesley) 11. Re: the time has come... (Steinar H. Gunderson) 12. Re: the time has come... (Per Jessen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:25:05 -0400 From: George Woltman Subject: Re: [Prime] Description of Residues To: The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search list Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:04 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: >I used to have somewhere a file that described what the various >digits of the residue represented. I just completed double-checking >an exponent which had two "reproducible so ignore errors" in it, >giving a residue as follows > >UID: nitro/Core_2, M17566723 is not prime. Res64: 1D11367228F409FF. >Wc1: 58C24BA4,7995055,02000200 > >Does anyone still have that descriptor anywhere? That is the benign error you get when operating near the limit of the FFT length. This happens when the roundoff error exceeds 0.4. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:26:32 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 John R Pierce wrote: > The time has come to wonder if this list is worth keeping open. > each day, I delete a dozen or more spams from the list input queue, > and its been fewer than a couple actual messages a month of late. > > I think this list has outlived its usefulness. There are almost 700 > subscribers, yet noone has anything to say... > > What say you all? I say keep it open - if needed, I'll volunteer to run it. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:31:39 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bruce Metcalf wrote: > Yes, this list has gone nearly dormant, probably due to the activity > shifting to the web forum. However, I loath reading messages on web > boards, and won't join them without a very good reason indeed. I > suspect I may not be the only one. Quite so. I very, very rarely visit webfora. I don't know of any serious projects, software or otherwise, that manage with a webforum as the primary vehicle for communication. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:03:39 -0600 From: Coran Fisher Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search list Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the ancient texts Rick Pali wrote: > George Yanos wrote: > >> However, I loath reading messages on web boards > > > >No you are not the only one. > > Not by a long shot. Indeed not. I prefer mail lists as they are easier to filter and organize, are faster, and can be read offline more easily (there's plucker but it's not easy, nor as fast, nor as usable, nor as filterable). For Mayer's comments it's amusing he complained then unsubscribed he needs to understand there are substantial reasons (I gave a few above) and different people have their own preferences. Frankly good riddance to a coward who unsubscribes after such a comment. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:41:57 -0400 From: Jason Papadopoulos Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search list , Coran Fisher Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Quoting Coran Fisher : > For Mayer's comments it's amusing he complained then unsubscribed > he needs to understand there are substantial reasons (I gave a few > above) and different people have their own preferences. Frankly good > riddance to a coward who unsubscribes after such a comment. Ernst is very active at mersenneforum.org. And I've seen more good discussions about factoring, computers and math in general in one week there than I've managed to see in several years on this list. I had my doubts originally, but Ernst is right and you're missing out. jasonp ------------------------------------------------------ This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. http://www.boo.net/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:48:00 -0700 From: "Greg Edwards" Subject: [Prime] Re: The time has come To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Folks, Just to add to the noise .. I'm running various Boinc things, mainly ClimatePrediction which I think is truly important. The forums there are 99% full of kids flaming the administrators for occasional lost/failed workunits, or why the screensaver doesn't have their preferred style, etc etc. I don't have patience to wade through all that sort of thing. I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the very occasional technical question, they don't seem to mind too much, if you keep it short and crisp. So that's working for me in much the same way as this list. Greg E Greg Edwards Technical Consultant Silicon Graphics Ltd (SGI) 11-17 Khartoum Road, North Ryde NSW 2113, Australia Ph: +61 (0)2 9448 1466 Mb: +61 (0)417 220 774 Fx: +61 (0)2 9448 1456 Skype: gjedwards_21c Em: gedwards at sgi dot com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:36:58 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Quantum Mechanic wrote: > Perhaps an alternate question to ask: "Does someone wanting the list > to continue want to put up with the spam filtering?" I don't mind doing that - that's why I do for a living anyway. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:39:33 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Brian Beesley wrote: > If you want to improve on that, then let's try to set up something > where contributions would have to be encrypted, or at least signed, > using a secure cipher. My guess is that spammers wouldn't be bothered > to obtain & register the necessary keys. The idea is that the list > would reject (automatically) inbound messages which weren't encoded or > signed using the contributer's registered key. List members would > receive plain text as at present, so the "silent majority" wouldn't > have to go to any extra effort. This is way overkill, IMHO. As long as the list is for members-only, 99% of spam will be caught by mailman as coming from a non-member. What I suspect John is talking about is clearing those out of mailman. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:41:42 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Brian Beesley wrote: > Forums (fora?) are such a pain... Fora and vira should both be the proper plural terms (for forums and viruses respectively), but don't seem to have found much use in English. And yes, webfora are a royal PITA. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:05:09 +0000 From: Brian Beesley Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search list Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tuesday 25 July 2006 21:03, Coran Fisher wrote: > > For Mayer's comments it's amusing he complained then unsubscribed > he needs to understand there are substantial reasons (I gave a few > above) and different people have their own preferences. Frankly good > riddance to a coward who unsubscribes after such a comment. That last comment is quite uncalled for; it's a serious insult to a major contributor to the project and I would hope that it is rapidly and unconditionally retracted. I may disagree with Ernst over the relative values of mail lists and forums but I unreservedly accept his right to his opinion. The discussion on this list seems to indicate an entrenched position amongst a majority of the responders that the list is still valued, even if it is usually silent. My reading of the position is that both list and forum should remain open for people to subscribe into or otherwise as they wish. Regards Brian Beesley ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:58:40 +0200 From: "Steinar H. Gunderson" Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:41:42AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: > Fora and vira should both be the proper plural terms (for forums and > viruses respectively), but don't seem to have found much use in > English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:17:24 +0200 From: Per Jessen Subject: Re: [Prime] the time has come... To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:41:42AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: >> Fora and vira should both be the proper plural terms (for forums and >> viruses respectively), but don't seem to have found much use in >> English. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection > If you're trying to say that vira and fora should not be used, I beg to differ. Vira, the correct latin plural of virus, is already used in a number of languages, although not English. Same goes for Fora, the latin plural of forum. /Per Jessen, Zürich ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Prime mailing list [email protected] http://hogranch.com/mailman/listinfo/prime End of Prime Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4 ************************************ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. _______________________________________________ Prime mailing list [email protected] http://hogranch.com/mailman/listinfo/prime
