In a message dated 11/19/02 6:47:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Hi Bob.

That's my whole point. I shouldn't be able to point to photographers who 
have created their own 'digital' look. I should just be able to point to 
photographers who are creating great images in their own style 
,irrespective of technique. >>

Dear Bob

My question wasn't meant to be a criticism of any method of image making. Nor 
was I trying to go over the digital v analogue debate. Actually I am 
convinced by many of your arguments. 

But, we can point to many photographers who made film capture of one kind or 
another into a very distinctive personal style. I'll name a few.

Pete Turner's Kodachrome dupes.
Bruce Davidson's Harlem B&Ws
Jerry Uelsmann's  double printing montages
Lartigue's snapshots
Fulvio Roiter's 35mm landscapes.
Art Kane's underexposed Kodachrome II
Avedon's B&W portraits
Penn's 10x8 still lifes.

(The first three are all very different and were all students together at 
Rochester Institute of Technology and taught by Ralph M Hattersley!)

Now I know that all the above can be emulated on digital but is there a 
distinctive digital look which stands alone? And is creatively original and 
sincere? 

You mentioned William Curwen's prints which I haven't seen. I have an idea 
that it isn't going to be digital capture alone which determines a digital 
style but the inkjet printer which is now so common on all our desks. I have 
never delivered a colour print to a client in my entire photography career. 
B&W prints in the early days but 99.9% of my work has been transparency, 
either on assignment or for stock.  I didn't even take my inkjet printers 
seriously until a few months back when my local repro bureau stopped doing 
proofs and I bought an HP DesignJet.  

Perhaps digital capture is still in early days and has a problem with the 
history of analogue. We are all used to what makes certain types of images 
and it will be hard to get away from. Back in the 1950s a news photographer 
called John Sadovy was covering the terrorist struggle in Cyprus. He got up 
close to his subjects and took sharp, well exposed pictures. Back in Fleet 
Street the picture editors would ask the B&W printer to kick the enlarger to 
give the pictures that shaky, newsy, sense of danger which they expected. 
This is similar to a digital capture image being turned into a very film 
based look. 

Jorge mentioned http://www.rjmuna.com/fset.fineart.html. I think this is 
confusing what I originally asked. I know that many photographers are 
shooting digital and making it look like film effects, sepia, blur, selective 
colour toning, surrealistic images etc. Muna does them all.

What I'd like to see is a distinctive "look" which is 
a/ consistent
b/ original
c/ not related to film.
d/ creatively interesting
e/ And moves the "language" of visual creation forwards like the analogue 
examples I quoted above. 

OK, I've thought of one. Harold Feinstein with his 10x8 scanning back. His 
images in the original Epson prints are mind blowing. The original US edition 
$60 books are pretty good too. 

Regards

Bob Croxford






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