On 9/11/04 14:32, Bob Frost wrote:

> But if you look on Bruce Lindblooms website at his RGB color space
> information, you will see that Adobe98 has a coding efficiciency of 100%,
> which means that all the rgb triplets are real colors.

Hi Bob,

As I am not a profile building expert, your post prompted me to do some more
research, which included an email discussion with Steve Upton to seek
clarification.

In his usual helpful manner he gave me this reply:

SNIP

OK, a couple of points.

- Lab is a model of all colours visible to humans. The Lab used by the ICC
and Photoshop is limited to -128->127 in the a and b axes and that does not
in fact contain all colours visible to the eye. There are a number of very
saturated colours that exist outside of those limits BUT none of those
colours are "reproducible" by manmade systems (multi-colourant systems like
RGB, CMYK, etc). SO, the Lab we use in the PCS and Photoshop is sufficient
for our task.

- Working spaces that are matrix-based (rather than lookup table, which are
very rare) are comprised of 3 RGB coordinates (in XYZ) 3 tone curves (or one
for all channels) and a white point. Very simple and very small on disk.
When you graph the XYZ values on the horseshoe diagram (which is in Yxy
space, a derivative of XYZ) you will find that some of the synthetic spaces
such as Adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB have blue or green coordinates that are,
in fact, outside of the "horseshoe" itself. That is, they are outside of the
range of human vision - this does not mean beyond ultraviolet or infrared
but instead, made of numbers that simply do not correspond to colours. This
is a reasonable and necessary thing to do if you want the "triangle" to be
large enough to encompass your desired colours. What is not reasonable is to
create a 255 blue in Adobe RGB or ProPhoto and expect it to reproduce
accurately. The print profile will map it to some printable colour but
comparing it to an original is folly.

One other thing. There are number values in all colour coordinate systems
that correspond to non-colors. Try Lab 0,50,50 or Lab 100,50,50. not
possible. Lab and other colour systems are rectangular blocks that contain
the blob that is our perceptible colours and a bunch of wasted space. Nature
of the beast.

SNIP


He is going to take a look at Bruce's site with regard to the Coding
Efficiency to clarify what it means in this context.

I hope this is useful - it has certainly helped me!

Best wishes,

Jack

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