> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Vista and what may not work???? > > > > From: "mrgmhale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, August 16, 2006 9:21 am > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sounds to me like they're trying to scare people into contributing > > > more to Microsoft's upgrade revenue stream. > > > > What? You really think Micro$coff would use FUD to try to > drive sales along > > with a new, totally secure Operating System? They couldn't be that > > heartless! Tell me it ain't so... My gawd, what is the world > coming to?!? > > I think that you forcing the wrong point. M$ is telling you to get your > system updated to the newer FREE version. If you didn't run out of room > in 2 gig then 4 gig will be fine. 2005 is faster then 2000 on the same > equipment, at least on my production boxes.
No point was being forced, I was just being a smart-ass looking to kill some time with a few provocative quirps. I do not use SQL Server as a back end, free or otherwise. I still use VFP tables, and am looking at migrating to PostGreSQL for cost effective, super-scaling, thin-net data-access reasons. > > > > heh-heh... Sounds like I can use the new Vista O/S as the > Perfect Excuse to > > drive even more revenue from my loyal clients. Yep, a new > Vista Compatible > > version of my apps ought to really please them... "Step right > up, get your > > impervious, totally secure Gil Hale applications - now new & > improved with > > Vista Compatibility (upgrade strongly recommended to ensure > compliance with > > The New OS Order)." > > So M$ has now set in motion that your CUSTOMERS should call you instead > of you having to pull a sales call on them? Pretty crappy to have > customers want to get a more recent version of software. I still have > a used car lot system operating on a FOX2.0 system because they didn't > want to upgrade. Is it my fault that I cleaned up a lot of code and > table usage in FP2.5 and they didn't want it? I got Customer details > cleaner, and better at capturing old loan data or in a much more user > friendly manner. Oh and not to mention I wrote the sales end for > selling your paper to third party lenders instead of it being just a > tote the note lot. Cost was then 150. upgrade. My customers don't give a rat's ass about calling me for updates on account of anything M$ does. They are new car dealers and managers. All they care about is when they click this thingy here it does whatever they need it to do, fast and consistently. I still compile my code in VFP v-7, although I cut the code in v-9. I do not sell upgrades or enhancements to my applications. I charge a recurring monthly license fee with no additional charge for support or upgrades within the same product line. If I recompile at some time in VFP v-9, there will be no additional charge to my clients. I'll simply plop the files onto their Server. The next time they open my app the latest file set is copied onto their client PC and they are off to the races without having to do any uninstall/reinstall craziness. If they ever need an O/S upgrade it is only because they got a new PC, not because I push them into it - Win98 died a natural death as my dealers got newer and newer machines, but my stuff still runs on Win95. > > > Yeah, that ought to serve humanity well, eh? I am sure glad I > did not drink > > the SQL Server Lite Kool-Aid. What's next? Lite Versions are not > > supported, and all Lite Versions are replaced by the Full > Version to ensure > > Total Security? This is too funny... All I can say is: "Come > Ed, let's get > > to Atlanta so I can see Dabo!" > > I guess that your a company programmer that has a huge to do list and > finding new fresh meat isn't necessary? For those out that that needs > any free help in generating inbound calls this is good. I don't care > if you make the changes and give them away for free as a download off > your site. It gets you talking to people that you have maybe long > forgotten because you did their work and you don't need to talk with > them any more. Nope, I am not a large company coder at all. I am surprised anyone would draw that conclusion - but.... I run a one man operation with automobile dealership clients from Puerto Rico to S California. In all my dealer groups have about 70 individual dealerships running my applications, the largest of which has 29 store locations. I do all my own marketing when I feel like it, and rarely at that as word-of-mouth has worked great for me over the years. I do not add new clients unless they are a referral from a current client. I am very close to my clients, many have become close friends with them all. My software is an integral part of their marketing effort, & makes them a lot of money. Nearly all my calls have absolutely nothing to do with my own code (it is usually about networks, WiFi, DCS manufacturer issues, hardware problems, in-house system issues, consulting, etc.). As a one man band my clients know who I am. I am available 24 x 7 for any of their needs, and do not charge them for "consulting time" unless it is a large off-the-wall project - the recurring license fees cover everything quite nicely. My large ToDo list has little to do with any short term computer projects, it is mostly longer range strategic development oriented stuff. Dabo is out a bit further than my current longer term efforts, but it is getting closer to striking range with each passing month. > > This is probably the best free business stimulant that a small > programming shop could get. How you choose to work with it is your own > karma. > I choose to not nail my clients with every little opportunity to drag additional cash out of them, and never mark up 3rd party software or hardware I acquire for them. I also try to prevent situations where a change to the O/S will require me to make any radical changes in back-end architecture or version updates. Fox Rocks in my world, and Dabo/PostGreSQL will only let me further leverage an already excellent set of offerings to my clients as M$ makes moves further away from my development needs. The main reason I have not moved to a Linux environment is because all vehicle manufacturers require their dealers to use Windows based machinery for DCS (factory communications). And, until Dabo came along I really had no attractive multi-platform solution for development. What Ed has hatched out (Dabo) truly intrigues me, and I can hardly wait to get my teeth into his offerings. I love coding in VFP, but the reality is that too soon my options with VFP are going to become quite limited as M$ lets it slip into a shadow of its powerful self with post-Vista O/S structures. As M$ loses focus on Fox, I lose focus on M$, except where I absolutely must use M$ for its O/S platforms on client PCs. For my Server platform I will likely move to a flavor of Linux to host PostGreSQL, simply to get away from the potential investment issues my clients will certainly have with licensing costs. But if a dealer wants me to piggy-back on a Windows Server it will be nice to have that option. Ciao! Gil > Peace. > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
