Obama is going down. Now that the FBI is involved, he's finished.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Oke, II" <[email protected]> To: ProFox Email List <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 5:14 PM Subject: RE: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. Administration officials sat in on board meetings? http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-administration-officials-sat-in-on-bankrupt-solar-companys-board-meetings-2011-9 Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 [email protected] On Sep 9, 2011 1:07 PM, "Carl Lindner" <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought he was the Community Organizer in Chief. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:11 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. > > Bad luck, tsunamis, earthquakes, Bush, Cheney, Palin, but it's never the > Joker-in-Chief Obama's fault. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl Lindner <[email protected]> > To: 'ProFox Email List' <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 2:36 PM > Subject: RE: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. > > If you cannot blame on Republicans you can blame it on *** BAD LUCK ***. > Where have I heard that one before?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of lelandj > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:26 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. > > If the world economy was hitting on all cylinders, oil, gas, and coal > would be on the down hill side of peak production, if it isn't already. > In this world demand for fossil fuel would exceed supply forcing prices > for fossil fuel higher. The ever increasing cost of fossil fuel would > create growing demand for products like those offered by Solyndra. > > As it turned out Solyndra open its door during a time when world wide > demand for oil, gas, and coal was lower than usual, due to the great > recession. This resulted in a decreased demand for alternatives like > solar energy hitting Solyndra hard. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > On 09/09/2011 12:13 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> They shouldn't be paid with government dollars. If they were earning it, > then fine, but these guys obviously had a product nobody wanted. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: lelandj<[email protected]> >> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 1:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >> >> What 1.5 billion corporation doesn't pay its top management excessive >> salaries and bonuses. In today's world top management feel they are >> entitled to compensation necessary for a lavish standard of living. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> >> On 09/09/2011 11:42 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>> I betcha the heads of Solydra got hefty salaries and bonuses. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: lelandj<[email protected]> >>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 11:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>> >>> I'm having a hard time making anything of your logic, (eg fed guaranteed >>> loan / number of employees),; because, Solyndra didn't buy the employees >>> at $535,000.00 each. Almost always paying employees is part of >>> operating expenses paid out of earnings. I would hazard a guess that >>> most of the $535,000.00 government guaranteed loans and another billion >>> in equity, (eg probably preferred and common stock), when to purchase >>> land, buildings and plant and equipment with some used for >>> operations/startup expenses. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> LelandJ >>> >>> >>> On 09/09/2011 08:52 AM, Carl Lindner wrote: >>>> Those trailing zeros are pesky things! >>>> >>>> 535,000,000 million less three zeros gives $535,000 per job. >>>> >>>> But, it was a loan and I am sure they will make good on it. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >>>> Of lelandj >>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:07 AM >>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>> >>>> Wait a minute. It was a 535 million, not 535 billion, federal loan >>>> guarantee. This would have made it easy for Solyndra to acquire loans >>>> as Uncle Sam was a cosigner/guarantee. Solyndra filed bankruptcy under >>>> chaper 11, which is a reorganization. >>>> >>>> #------------------------------------ >>>> Excerpt: >>>> >>>> Solyndra has garnered the spotlight not only for its unusual technology >>>> but also for receiving a hefty federal loan guarantee of $535 million to >>>> build a factory. Solyndra broke ground on the factory project just >>>> before Labor Day in 2009 and completed the factory last year. Solyndra >>>> has also raised close to a billion dollars in equity and loans. >>>> >>>> > http://gigaom.com/cleantech/solyndra-to-file-for-bankruptcy-lay-off-1100/ >>>> >>>> #---------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> LelandJ >>>> >>>> On 09/08/2011 10:10 PM, Carl Lindner wrote: >>>>> What nice thoughts. Obammer provided Solyndra with 535 or so billion. >>>>> Eleven hundred or so were employed before they did the bankruptcy > thing. >>>> So >>>>> for the sake of simple math, I divide 535,000,000,000 by 1,000. So, I >>>> just >>>>> drop the last three zeros from 535,000,000,000 and get 535,000,000 or > 535 >>>>> million per job. >>>>> >>>>> What a f good deal. Tell me if my math is incorrect. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >>>>> Of Gary Jeurink >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:55 PM >>>>> To: 'ProFox Email List' >>>>> Subject: RE: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>> >>>>> Why is that? So we can create a couple more millionaires and shove > several >>>>> thousand more border-liners from middle-class into poverty? The cure > for >>>>> cancer is for the sick not the meal ticket for one OVERCHARGING > pharmacy >>>>> company to make billions on... when it benefits all, it shouldn't > always >>>>> involve profit for a few! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Michael Madigan [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:50 PM >>>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>> >>>>> I agree Gary, but it has to be with private venture capital and not >>>> taxpayer >>>>> money. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Gary Jeurink<[email protected]> >>>>> To: 'ProFox Email List'<[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:16 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>> >>>>> THERE IS NO NOUBT that renewable energy sources will eventually be >>>>> competitive with oil (it WILL run out and get gradually/steadily more >>>>> expensive). Hydro/wind/solar sources are expensive to install but not > to >>>>> maintain and they are local. We must develop these now while we have > time >>>> to >>>>> perfect them. You build a boat before the flood not during the flood. >>>>> >>>>> Gary Jeurink >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Michael Oke, II [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:49 PM >>>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>> >>>>> And here comes the FBI. >>>>> >>>> > http://www.businessinsider.com/now-the-fbi-is-raiding-obamas-favorite-solar- >>>>> company-2011-9 >>>>> >>>>> Michael Oke, II >>>>> 661-349-6221 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> On Sep 1, 2011 2:34 PM, "Michael Madigan"<[email protected]> > wrote: >>>>>> We're the only country that prevents drilling for oil in our own > country. >>>>> What's next, ban corn and wheat from being grown so we have to import > them >>>>> too? >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: "Michael Oke, II"<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 5:21 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Guess that you have to lay the blame for that at Obama's feet then. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael Oke, II >>>>>> 661-349-6221 >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM, "lelandj"<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Big oil with all her money, influence, lobbies, and power still rules > in >>>>>>> Washington. That the country still lacks a holistic energy policy is >>>>>>> testimony to the fact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LelandJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/01/2011 03:13 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>>>>>>> Every day another failed green company goes belly-up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: "Michael Oke, II"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 2:35 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought that this was old news? Nice to know that US taxpayers are > on >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> hook for the loans to these guys tho. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael Oke, II >>>>>>>> 661-349-6221 >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011 9:07 PM, "Michael Madigan"<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Another giant failure from Obongo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20099902-54/solyndr[excessive quoting > removed by server] > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACBEV=Xv+=82o19j-wqixhkzr4zle5mrwchytozcnxc+so4...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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