geoff wrote: > IM not going to engage in a debate about guns. Australia is a safe place > without guns. USA is a dangerous place because of guns. the fact you even > link basic concepts of democracy to guns is silly.
Hi Geoff, You toss off a wildly ridiculous figure, we object to it since it is essentially big lie propaganda, then you say you aren't going to debate it, you are right, we are wrong (and silly) and that is that because you said so. Going through the archives, you in fact never provided figures official or otherwise the last time either just your made-up 50,000, you then criticized our correct figures, not with facts, but because of where the facts came from. If the devil tells the truth, it is still the truth. If any honest people are following the thread, most recent NRA: http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/firearm-accident-fatalities-at-an-all-time-low.aspx?s=gun%20deaths&st=&ps= > geoff wrote: >> I recall last time we had this particular dance I supplied official >> figures that supported it. your problem (as with madagain) is you want >> to dispute official figures and remove accidental deaths and suicides >> etc. When aussie morons get into brawls we get broken noses and jaws. >> When american morons get into brawls there are 5 gunshot deaths. > "Official" figures that include accidents and suicides? Whose figures? > Handgun Control? They are not official, they are a pressure group of evil > reputation. I searched for your post and it is out of my buffer, remember > the date? > > If you are really concerned about accidents ban cars. The car accident death > toll is staggering - a multiple of gun accidents, and everybody could read > or sleep while riding the bus. > >> We've already had the argument and my point was proved. > > How did you prove your point, by injecting irrelevant material? That proves > anything? > >> please don't bother >> going to the NRA to get their highly censored, filtered and massaged >> figures. they are not credible. You love guns. I get it. I like to >> shoot as well. I just dont feel the need to carry one with me >> because... no one else does either. > > You can't carry in Oz, unless you are a crook - then no limits at all. > >> geoff wrote: >>> garbage. you just love guns - that is all. in the meantime, our deal >>> toll from guns per year is <100 while yours tops 50,000. funny, that! > >> Like I said many times before, I question the 50,000 figure and you >> never answer my question. >> >>> Without the basic right to keep and bear arms you are not at all a >>> citizen, only a subject, any diversion of "republic" not withstanding. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

