Am I sure? No. But with 150+ workstations to manage, I don't often have the luxury of proactive cleaning. It's all I can handle to keep people from installing programs they've downloaded... I just respond when someone does something stupid and clean up the mess. Most virus and trojan activity is pretty hard to miss...the guys who write the good stuff (that's hard to detect) are usually after bigger fish (DOD, IRS, USA GOV) than consumer desktops.
I've also found that using OpenDNS helps a lot by preventing people from "wandering" (trying to give them the benefit of the doubt) into websites that they shouldn't be on. Which brings me to the most important point about virus' and trojans and things that go bump in the night...end user education and people action management are the best and most important part of virus avoidance. Get a PDF attachment from someone you don't know with a vague message about opening the attachment as soon as possible? Delete it. No, it doesn't matter who sent it or why. Just delete it! NO, we don't need to make sure it wasn't sent by someone who we DO know but is stupid. Just delete it. The same for IRS emails, and emails claiming to need you to verify your email account is valid...DELETE KEY IS YOUR BEST FRIEND! Sorry, got on a rant. Mike -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [NF] Wireless Router problem/life time From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 8/15/2012 8:25 PM Yes. I rechecked my references. It was Defender and I assumed that MS Security stuff was a post successor to it. If it was a complete rewrite then I have to back off my comments. The Avast prompts don't require acknowledgement. I just tell my customers that they will come up every time the PC boots and often during the day. The advantage being Avast is updating their library of viruses every day. MS and Norton do it only on a weekly or monthly basis. I have never got the special announcement until the license has run out. As I said before I have put Avast on over 400 PCs and the only confusion is when they don't read the renewal menu and have to call me about problems updating the license. Only a dozen or so people had this problem. Are you sure that no virii have gotten by MS Security? It would be interesting to run Malwarebytes and Spybot once in a while to double check. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Copeland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Wireless Router problem/life time > Got tired of the constant prompts to upgrade and update. Seems like > nothing can happen in Avast without end user's involvement. I don't want > the end user updating anything. I don't want to be notified that "Avast > Upgrades are now on special!" All that does is cause my end users to > contact me wanting to know what to do. > > All I want my AV solution to do is > a) block viri > b) update itself without being told to > c) keep off the screen > > Avast was pretty good with a, not at all with b, and terrible with > c....although your mileage may vary. And yes, I even bought 10 Avast > licenses for one client and they still had pop ups on the screen down by > the system tray. I am soooo tired of answering "What was that blue box > there for down by the clock this morning when I turned on my monitor?" > > MSE, is excellent on all three points...it JUST WORKS and I don't have > to deal with it. > > I think you might be thinking about the Microsoft Defender which was > installed by default since XP (I think). MSE automatically disables > Defender when MSE is installed. > > Defender reminded me of a half-blind 2-legged dog... > > Mike Copeland > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NF] Wireless Router problem/life time > From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: 8/15/2012 2:02 PM > > Why? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Copeland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Wireless Router problem/life time > > >> +1 >> >> In fact, I've been removing Avast from every workstation I manage. >> >> Mike >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [NF] Wireless Router problem/life time >> From: Allen <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: 8/15/2012 5:32 AM >> A me too here >> Al >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> You surprise me. All the feedback I have had says that it as good as any >> other. I use it in conjunction with Spybot S&D and have never had any >> trouble (touch wood :-) ). >> >> >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
