On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Mike McCann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lurker alert:


Hi, Mike!



> Prop: a set of PowerShell snapins could replace most of VFP.  How small a
> set?
>

There's nothing in VFP that hasn't been reinvented in other languages. To
me, the power of Fox is the ease of developing solutions to complex
problems.

The dao of Fox isn't the language. It isn't the cursor engine. It isn't the
editor. Or macros. Or low-level file functions. Nor the Project Manager.

It's the entirety of MODI PROJ Fred, MODI COMM junk, COMPILE Fred, Do Fred,
Escape, MODI COMM, ACTI WIND debug, etc. The edit-run-test-crash-edit loop.
The ease of moving from one to the other. The debugger that works, live, on
running code. The ability to recode much of the IDE. The width, breadth,
and depth of FoxPro as UI, data engine, runtime and debugger. I've worked
in VFP for a decade, and Visual Studio, Eclipse, Komodo and others, and
I've never had that sense of smooth, easy transitions.

In Peopleware, DeMarco and Lister called the state "Flow," where a
programmer enters a zen-like state of coding; their fingers fly, the code
rolls out, errors are stomped, and productivity seems to soar. I recall
speaking about productivity at conferences in the '00's and when I got to
the slide about 'Flow' the programmers in the audience would nod with a
knowing grin. That's what VFP is good for. If you can reproduce THAT in
PowerShell, more power to you!



>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: VFP9 mline
>
> It is Thierry. And it's a shame they (M$) treated it so bad. To turn it
> into such a brilliant product and to dump it because of greed is a sin. To
> do stuff in c# is such a bore, making much more work to do the same thing.
> One example. Web services are a breeze to connect to in VFP. Even when you
> don’t know till runtime the address. Try that in c# and it's an essay full
> of code and classes.
> But... if something is in there, why not tell us about it. Not have one
> help section refer to another section only to find no help there.
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Looks to me like a sand grain compared to the whole bunch of terrific
> stuff in VFP!
>
>
>
>
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