Dan,
I would agree that it would be good to reevaluate the workflow. It's a long story, but the current 'solution' is the result of several approaches which were developed following analysis and interviews. What has helped in the past was to work with individuals and show them the bigger picture that they were a part of...how it causes problems for a lot of people when they don't do their job 'right.' That usually helps, but the turnover and growth of the company is putting a strain on the processes.

Mike

Dan Covill wrote:
I think Virgil's on to something here.  If their 'macro' work flow is better 
when they move the stuff around first, then do the computer work, find a way to 
help with that scenario instead of forcing a different one.
Why not try automating the Notepad - let them scan (n) boxes into a list, then 
in your app pick from the list.  At least it won't be full of typo's.
Dan Covill

From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: square peg - square hole
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:18:51 -0500
To: [email protected]

Juan had a case study about a similar problem in the 80's

Sounds to me like the solution is a portable scanner with a pick list program

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On Oct 1, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Mike Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:

Yep, tried that first thing, along with frank discussions with the users asking "why?" 
This has been a problem for years now, and the issue comes and goes as new employees cycle through. 
Management even installed wireless rechargeable hand-held scanners on multiple workstations that 
are located near the work/processing area...there's no reason anyone in management can come up 
with. They even tried moving a VP of operations to the warehouse processing office for a couple of 
months last summer to watch (from 8 to 5 at least) and see what was "really" happening.

The only thing that makes sense, in the end-user's defense, is that they prefer 
to move boxes around for all their orders that need to be processed, then when 
the boxes are stacked up they go and do all their computer work for all their 
orders that need to be processed (instead of processing one order from pulling 
boxes to paper work to completion of order.) But we're talking personal 
preference here...the distance from the computer to the box staging area is 
about 12 feet.

Thanks, Virgil.

Mike


Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
Must be a process flow problem if they're going to that much trouble

Grab you a chair and watch their frustration with the process for a week or 
month until you understand why they are going to that much effort

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On Oct 1, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Mike Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:

All,

I have a problem with end users hand-keying information that should be scanned 
with a barcode scanner to improve accuracy.

Here's the gist of the issue...
Every piece of inventory has a barcode sticker on it representing a unique 
serial #, always 8 characters long.
(My application offers a way to reprint the barcode label in case this label 
gets torn, damaged.)

What I need to force, somehow, is that the # represented on the barcode label 
MUST be scanned by a simple barcode scan gun connected to the computer.

As ya'll know, all the scanner does is convert the barcode data into standard 
keyboard keystrokes and stuff the data into the keyboard buffer...really fast. 
In other words, a very fast, very accurate typist. But most importantly, the 
CORRECT # is input (so that the correct inventory item is recorded as 
'processed.')

The problem is that the users hand-key the number at the prompt...and 
frequently hand-key it wrong.

So, to try to stop the hand-keying I removed the human-readable text under the 
barcode on the label. So now, you either scan it or you learn to read barcode 
by eye. One would hope/think that this would have solved the problem...but no.

Now (by watching security video footage) we find that they are
1. opening Notepad
2. scanning the barcodes, which enters the barcode data in human readable form, 
obviously
3. then hand keying the data into my application when they should use the 
scanner.

And...errors are being made regularly. And, yes, training, threats, etc. have 
been tried.

 From the application's viewpoint, the only difference between a barcode 
scanner providing input and a human typing on a keyboard is the speed with 
which the data is input.

So, my last-ditch idea to force scanning and negate hand-keying is to, somehow, 
use a timer on the input. Set the timer to a short time, like 1 second, which 
is faster than 99% of humankind can type 8 characters. Start the timer on the 
first keystroke and when the timer fires again if the length of the input is 
less than 8, clear the input...because they're not scanning.

My question, is this nuts? Is there a better way? Am I barking at the moon? 
Begging for problems? Any other Ideas?

Thanks for feedback.

Mike Copeland
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