At 15:00 2015-04-15, "Kurt @ VR-FX" <[email protected]> wrote:
Gene - I would Love to know if there was a video taken of U when it occurred - as it would be a Real Winner on YouTube and probably get Lots of views!!!

:-)

Sorry - couldn't help myself...
Another was when I recently had to delete a spam attachment. I used to go to c:\eudora\download. Now, I have to go about six levels deep. One of those directories was not displayed in Windows Explorer until I used attrib on it.

Probably I should not hijack this thread. But...

I still use Eudora on Windows 7, but the writing is on the wall.

If you are not running an Administrator account, EVEN IF Eudora data is installed in an allegedly 'writeable" location, it will sometimes run afoul of Win 7 permission issues. One scenario in which this happens is when Eudora uses a DOS-era dodge to copy a file from one place to another, by RENAME-ing it to a different location. This will sometimes result in a Windows "Access denied" message. The problem can be fixed by manually assigning the user "Full Control" to the affected file...but the problem may recur with a different file, or with the same file at another time. This happens in about 5% of Eudora installations on Windows 7.

Somewhat more commonly. the names of attachment files in Eudora will get munged or truncated in the in-line links, so that clicking on them results in a "file not found" error. There is no known solution to this. The work-around is to navigate to the attachment folder and open the file from there. Thank goodness Eudora still automatically decodes and stores attachments as separate files, whether you open the attachment or not.

(As an aside, for quite a while Eudora has been randomly screwing up file extensions on attachment file names if those extensions contain more than 3 characters (notoriously, ".docx"). This happens on XP as well as 7. No published solution works 100% to fix this.)

Insanely, in Windows 7 any "hidden" folder can be accessed by any user, without "unhiding" anything, by putting a shortcut to it in some location the user can see. Wow. Real big security feature, that "hiding folders" thing....

For the most foolproof operation, when installing Eudora on a Win 7 machine, I always do the following:

1. Using an Administrator account, install the Eudora software to a folder in the root.

2A. If you're always going to run as Administrator, go ahead and create your data folders now. I create them in C:\Users\Public, an allegedly "writeable" location for anyone. It's not hidden, so no need to mess around with that nonsense.

2B. If you're going to run as a restricted or ordinary user without admin rights, elevate that account to a member of the local Administrators group, then log into that account. Delete the Eudora.ini file out of the folder where you installed the software; such a file should only exist in the data folder(s).

2C. Create the data folder(s) in C:\Users\Public, then manually grant full control permissions on them to the user (YES, to the user you're logged in as, which should already have such control over the folder(s) you created, but I kid you not, if you don't do this, the odds of having a problem down the road substantially increase.)

2D. Still in the elevated restricted user account, start Eudora with "Run as Administrator" (YES, etc, I kid you not, etc...). This allows Eudora to finally by God register itself as the default mail client (which CANNOT happen under any other circumstances, and if it does not happen, every time you run Eudora it will tell you there is no mail client associated with the application. NO, you can't use the "Default Programs" applet to register Eudora as the default client because that applet will never find Eudora to offer you the option, and after two days of tinkering with the Registry I could not find any way to manually tell Windows 7 that the default email client is Eudora). Set your account(s) up and save your passwords. Download mail, and send messages, to make sure all of the files Eudora needs to use are created in this environment.

2E. Shut down Eudora, and run it again, still in the elevated restricted account, and this time do not use "Run as Administrator". It's going to ask you for the password(s) again even though you already saved them. Feed the machine. (YES, I kid you not...).

2F. Log out, log into the machine as Administrator, take the restricted user out of the Administrator group, log out, log in as the ordinary restricted user, and test Eudora. Hopefully, it works.

Even with all this, Eudora is still the best desktop POP/SMTP client I have ever used, and it's worth fussing with--at least for now. Thankfully, I have not had to try it on Win 8.x

However, the hurdles introduced by Windows 10 may be too high to conquer. We shall see.

Yours in Solidarity with What QualComm Used to Be,
Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org


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